RE: DLSW direct encaps

From: Jason Sinclair (sinclairj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Mar 12 2002 - 04:10:40 GMT-3


   
Yigit,

What did you use to define your local peer statement? Please see the
following URL:
 <http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/ibsw/ibdlsw/tech/dls3_rg.htm>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ibm_
c/bcprt2/bcddlsw.htm#xtocid1133246

How can you tell the local router what address to accept connections on. You
need to define the DLSW local-peer without an ip address when you wnat to
use DLSW for local translation only.

Cheers,

Jason Sinclair
Manager, Network Support Group
POWERTEL
Ground Level, 55 Clarence Street,
SYDNEY NSW 2000
AUSTRALIA
office: + 61 2 8264 3820
mobile: + 61 416 105 858
* sinclairj@powertel.com.au

        -----Original Message-----
        From: A Yigit Zorlu [mailto:alec_cisco@yahoo.com]
        Sent: Tuesday, 12 March 2002 15:10
        To: 'Jason Sinclair'; 'Bob Sinclair'
        Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
        Subject: RE: DLSW direct encaps

        Jason,

        Are you sure that we need ip address in the local peer statement of
direct
        encap. ? In the archive and Cisco docs it does not have IP addr. in
local
        peer st.

        And you talked to Cisco , they will update their docs ?

        If I remember correctly I tried it in the lab and it was working
without IP
        addr.

        any comments will be appreciated,

        Yigit

        -----Original Message-----
        From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf
Of
        Jason Sinclair
        Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:02 AM
        To: 'A Yigit Zorlu'; Jason Sinclair; 'Bob Sinclair'
        Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
        Subject: RE: DLSW direct encaps

        Yigit,

        You use it for the local-peer. Let's say you have an address on your
token
        ring, loopback and serial int. You must use the local-peer peer-id
with the
        address of the serial int NOT the loop or the token. I have also
verified
        this behaviour with Cisco and they have concurred with these
findings. I
        believe they are updating the doco appropriately.

        Regards,

        Jason Sinclair
        Manager, Network Support Group
        POWERTEL
        Ground Level, 55 Clarence Street,
        SYDNEY NSW 2000
        AUSTRALIA
        office: + 61 2 8264 3820
        mobile: + 61 416 105 858
        * sinclairj@powertel.com.au

                -----Original Message-----
                From: A Yigit Zorlu [mailto:alec_cisco@yahoo.com]
                Sent: Monday, 11 March 2002 17:04
                To: 'Jason Sinclair'; 'Bob Sinclair'
                Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
                Subject: RE: DLSW direct encaps

                Jason,

                I am confused. Where do you use ip address in direct
encapsulation ?

                Please check :
                o Dlsw local-peer
                o dlsw remote-peer 0 frame-relay interface serial 0
100
        pass-thru
                o interface serial 0
                o frame-relay map dlsw 100 br

                Yigit

                -----Original Message-----
                From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On
Behalf
        Of
                Jason Sinclair
                Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:15 AM
                To: 'Bob Sinclair'; Jason Sinclair
                Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
                Subject: RE: DLSW direct encaps

                Bob,

                Direct must be point to point. When using direct you must
also use
        the IP
                address on the serial int NOT a loopback or a token/ether,
etc. I am
        not
                sure why, but from my testing the remote side must ack the
frames
        and thus
                when you use any int that is not the directly connected int,
the L2
        frame is
                then routed to the next int. That is also why only p2p works
I
        guess!
                Remember with DLSW Lite this does not matter as the frame is
locally
                acknowledged. This is only an issue when using the pass-thru
        command.

                I have some dynamic peer stuff that works. Basically dynamic
peer
        circuits
                and the peer connection are only brought up when there is
traffic
        destined
                for the remote side (I guess that is fairly obvious). I have
had
        success
                doing this when using a dest-mac statement under the
remote-peer as
        you can
                better control the dynamic peer. Some configs are as follows
which
        create a
                host and a FEP and also two DLSW routers runnning dynamic
over HDLC.
        Nothing
                fancy, I am not using loopbacks just the serial ints.

                When you start it up the peers will connect and 2 circuits
will
        establish.
                If you shut the token on HostA, the circuits will drop and
after 20
        minutes
                the peers will disconnect. You can drop this timer if that
is too
        long. Also
                as I have specified the dest-mac, the peers will only
establish for
        this
                address as dynamic peers only establish after all filter
rules are
        met.

                Also remember to bit-swap the mac addresses on the host or
FEP if
        you are
                doing token to ether as you are statically defining the
remote mac
        and dlsw
                will not swap it for you in this instance.

                Let me know if you have any trouble using this or have other
DLSW
        questions.
                I am at work right now and can't access my home lab, but if
you have
        any
                problems I will re-create tonight. This is all from the top
of my
        head at
                the moment!!

        
HostA-------tokenring---------DLSWA--------serial--------DLSWB--------tokenr
                ing----------FEP

                HostA (PU2)
                dspu host PU2 xid-snd 01712345 rmac 4000.1111.0001 rsap 4
lsap 4
                retry-timeout 5
                !
                dspu host PU3 xid-snd 01712345 rmac 4000.1111.0001 rsap 8
lsap 8
                retry-timeout 5
                !
                interface TokenRing0
                 mac-address 4000.3000.0002
                 no ip address
                 ring-speed 16
                 dspu enable-host lsap 4
                 dspu enable-host lsap 8
                 dspu start PU2
                 dspu start PU3

                DLSWA
                Dlsw local-peer peer-id 1.1.1.1
                Dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 1.1.1.2 dynamic inactivity 20
dest-mac
        4000.1111.0001

                !
                Int s0
                Ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.252

                DLSWB
                Dlsw local-peer peer-id 1.1.1.2 promiscuous
                !
                int s0
                ip address 1.1.1.2 255.255.255.252
                clock rate 64000

                FEP(PU4)
                dspu pu PU2 xid-rcv 01712345
                !
                dspu pu PU3 xid-rcv 01712345
                !
                interface TokenRing0
                 mac-address 4000.1111.0001
                 no ip address
                 ring-speed 16
                 dspu enable-pu lsap 4
                 dspu enable-pu lsap 8

                Cheers,

                Jason Sinclair
                Manager, Network Support Group
                POWERTEL
                Ground Level, 55 Clarence Street,
                SYDNEY NSW 2000
                AUSTRALIA
                office: + 61 2 8264 3820
                mobile: + 61 416 105 858
                * sinclairj@powertel.com.au

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: Bob Sinclair [mailto:bsin@erols.com]
                                Sent: Monday, 11 March 2002 09:03
                                To: Jason Sinclair
                                Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
                                Subject: Re: DLSW direct encaps

                                Jason,

                                Since you have some experience with this,
maybe you
        could
                confirm my understanding. Is it true that direct
encapsulation over
        frame
                relay is only point-point. I don't mean subif type, but
that if you
        had a
                hub and spoke configuration, one could not do direct encap
spoke to
        spoke.
                Does that sound right?

                                Also, do you have a working config for
dynamic
        peers? I
                have not been able to get this to work or to find a good
example.

                                Thanks

                                ----- Original Message -----
                                From: "Jason Sinclair"
<sinclairj@powertel.com.au>
                                To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
                                Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 6:24 PM
                                Subject: DLSW direct encaps

> All,
>
> FYI - direct encapsulation over frame
relay with
        IETF does
                not work in any
> version of IOS from 12.0 - 12.2 (don't
know about
        before).
                It works fine
> with Cisco encaps however. I spent three
days
        playing with
                this and in the
> end using a frame analyser and debug frame
packet
        you see
                that DLSW
> manipulates the IETF frame to the point
where it
        has an
                "ILLEGA:" value in
> it. Just thought this might be interesting
to
        someone.
>
> Regards,
>
> PS - I have the debug output if anyone
wants it.
>
> Jason Sinclair
> Manager, Network Support Group
> POWERTEL
> Ground Level, 55 Clarence Street,
> SYDNEY NSW 2000
> AUSTRALIA
> office: + 61 2 8264 3820
> mobile: + 61 416 105 858
> * sinclairj@powertel.com.au
>
>
>
>
>

        
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