RE: DLSW direct encaps

From: Jason Sinclair (sinclairj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Mar 11 2002 - 20:02:14 GMT-3


   
Yigit,

You use it for the local-peer. Let's say you have an address on your token
ring, loopback and serial int. You must use the local-peer peer-id with the
address of the serial int NOT the loop or the token. I have also verified
this behaviour with Cisco and they have concurred with these findings. I
believe they are updating the doco appropriately.

Regards,

Jason Sinclair
Manager, Network Support Group
POWERTEL
Ground Level, 55 Clarence Street,
SYDNEY NSW 2000
AUSTRALIA
office: + 61 2 8264 3820
mobile: + 61 416 105 858
* sinclairj@powertel.com.au

        -----Original Message-----
        From: A Yigit Zorlu [mailto:alec_cisco@yahoo.com]
        Sent: Monday, 11 March 2002 17:04
        To: 'Jason Sinclair'; 'Bob Sinclair'
        Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
        Subject: RE: DLSW direct encaps

        Jason,

        I am confused. Where do you use ip address in direct encapsulation ?

        Please check :
        o Dlsw local-peer
        o dlsw remote-peer 0 frame-relay interface serial 0 100
pass-thru
        o interface serial 0
        o frame-relay map dlsw 100 br

        Yigit

        -----Original Message-----
        From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf
Of
        Jason Sinclair
        Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:15 AM
        To: 'Bob Sinclair'; Jason Sinclair
        Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
        Subject: RE: DLSW direct encaps

        Bob,

        Direct must be point to point. When using direct you must also use
the IP
        address on the serial int NOT a loopback or a token/ether, etc. I am
not
        sure why, but from my testing the remote side must ack the frames
and thus
        when you use any int that is not the directly connected int, the L2
frame is
        then routed to the next int. That is also why only p2p works I
guess!
        Remember with DLSW Lite this does not matter as the frame is locally
        acknowledged. This is only an issue when using the pass-thru
command.

        I have some dynamic peer stuff that works. Basically dynamic peer
circuits
        and the peer connection are only brought up when there is traffic
destined
        for the remote side (I guess that is fairly obvious). I have had
success
        doing this when using a dest-mac statement under the remote-peer as
you can
        better control the dynamic peer. Some configs are as follows which
create a
        host and a FEP and also two DLSW routers runnning dynamic over HDLC.
Nothing
        fancy, I am not using loopbacks just the serial ints.

        When you start it up the peers will connect and 2 circuits will
establish.
        If you shut the token on HostA, the circuits will drop and after 20
minutes
        the peers will disconnect. You can drop this timer if that is too
long. Also
        as I have specified the dest-mac, the peers will only establish for
this
        address as dynamic peers only establish after all filter rules are
met.

        Also remember to bit-swap the mac addresses on the host or FEP if
you are
        doing token to ether as you are statically defining the remote mac
and dlsw
        will not swap it for you in this instance.

        Let me know if you have any trouble using this or have other DLSW
questions.
        I am at work right now and can't access my home lab, but if you have
any
        problems I will re-create tonight. This is all from the top of my
head at
        the moment!!

        
HostA-------tokenring---------DLSWA--------serial--------DLSWB--------tokenr
        ing----------FEP

        HostA (PU2)
        dspu host PU2 xid-snd 01712345 rmac 4000.1111.0001 rsap 4 lsap 4
        retry-timeout 5
        !
        dspu host PU3 xid-snd 01712345 rmac 4000.1111.0001 rsap 8 lsap 8
        retry-timeout 5
        !
        interface TokenRing0
         mac-address 4000.3000.0002
         no ip address
         ring-speed 16
         dspu enable-host lsap 4
         dspu enable-host lsap 8
         dspu start PU2
         dspu start PU3

        DLSWA
        Dlsw local-peer peer-id 1.1.1.1
        Dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 1.1.1.2 dynamic inactivity 20 dest-mac
4000.1111.0001

        !
        Int s0
        Ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.252

        DLSWB
        Dlsw local-peer peer-id 1.1.1.2 promiscuous
        !
        int s0
        ip address 1.1.1.2 255.255.255.252
        clock rate 64000

        FEP(PU4)
        dspu pu PU2 xid-rcv 01712345
        !
        dspu pu PU3 xid-rcv 01712345
        !
        interface TokenRing0
         mac-address 4000.1111.0001
         no ip address
         ring-speed 16
         dspu enable-pu lsap 4
         dspu enable-pu lsap 8

        Cheers,

        Jason Sinclair
        Manager, Network Support Group
        POWERTEL
        Ground Level, 55 Clarence Street,
        SYDNEY NSW 2000
        AUSTRALIA
        office: + 61 2 8264 3820
        mobile: + 61 416 105 858
        * sinclairj@powertel.com.au

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Bob Sinclair [mailto:bsin@erols.com]
                        Sent: Monday, 11 March 2002 09:03
                        To: Jason Sinclair
                        Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
                        Subject: Re: DLSW direct encaps

                        Jason,

                        Since you have some experience with this, maybe you
could
        confirm my understanding. Is it true that direct encapsulation over
frame
        relay is only point-point. I don't mean subif type, but that if you
had a
        hub and spoke configuration, one could not do direct encap spoke to
spoke.
        Does that sound right?

                        Also, do you have a working config for dynamic
peers? I
        have not been able to get this to work or to find a good example.

                        Thanks

                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: "Jason Sinclair" <sinclairj@powertel.com.au>
                        To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
                        Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 6:24 PM
                        Subject: DLSW direct encaps

> All,
>
> FYI - direct encapsulation over frame relay with
IETF does
        not work in any
> version of IOS from 12.0 - 12.2 (don't know about
before).
        It works fine
> with Cisco encaps however. I spent three days
playing with
        this and in the
> end using a frame analyser and debug frame packet
you see
        that DLSW
> manipulates the IETF frame to the point where it
has an
        "ILLEGA:" value in
> it. Just thought this might be interesting to
someone.
>
> Regards,
>
> PS - I have the debug output if anyone wants it.
>
> Jason Sinclair
> Manager, Network Support Group
> POWERTEL
> Ground Level, 55 Clarence Street,
> SYDNEY NSW 2000
> AUSTRALIA
> office: + 61 2 8264 3820
> mobile: + 61 416 105 858
> * sinclairj@powertel.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
        
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