From: Carlos A. Silva (carlos@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Jan 10 2002 - 16:20:05 GMT-3
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couldn't agree more.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf
> Of Curtis Call
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:11 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: [Re: OT: Honorary CCIE's]
>
>
> > Not on this list, but people I can think of who are not CCIEs,
> > include Tony Li, Yakov Rekhter, Dave Katz, JJ
> > Garcia-Luna-Alceves, Randy Bush, Andrew Partan, Radia Perlman,
> > Paul Ferguson, Vint Cerf, Scott Bradner, Frank Kastenholz, Karl
> > Auerbach, Sue Hares, Sean Doran, and many others. Do you know
> > who they are? Do they know who you are? Are you saying they
> > don't know how to network?
>
>
> Allow me to throw in my two cents to the list. To put the CCIE
> on a pedestal
> and claim that those that hold it are the 'masters' of the
> networking domain
> seems quite foolish to me. As Howard mentioned here, most of the
> best people
> in networking do not bother wasting their time getting
> certifications, their
> experience in the field and accomplishments in the standards area
> is what guarantees their respectibility. In case you don't
> recognize those names listed, much of these are the people that
> create the standards,
> oversee the
> IETF working groups etc. In addition, these are the programmers
> that implement the protocols, does anyone here that holds their
> CCIE actually believe they know more about OSPF than these people
> do? How
> about IS-IS or
> BGP? Then why are some of you claiming that holding a CCIE is
> some sort of
> requirement to teach about these protocols, even from a
> Cisco-oriented stance?
>
> Lets not shoot ourselves in the foot here, from lurking on this
> list I can attest that Howard's answers are some of the best and
> most
> informative. Don't
> turn away one of your best resources. And don't allow four letters
> and a number make your head too big.
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