From: adam (Adam.C.Smaracheck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Jan 10 2002 - 13:40:36 GMT-3
Well put, would it be possible to stop this non-constructive debate?
Adam
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Subject: Re: [Re: OT: Honorary CCIE's]
> Not on this list, but people I can think of who are not CCIEs,
> include Tony Li, Yakov Rekhter, Dave Katz, JJ Garcia-Luna-Alceves,
> Randy Bush, Andrew Partan, Radia Perlman, Paul Ferguson, Vint Cerf,
> Scott Bradner, Frank Kastenholz, Karl Auerbach, Sue Hares, Sean
> Doran, and many others. Do you know who they are? Do they know who
> you are? Are you saying they don't know how to network?
Allow me to throw in my two cents to the list. To put the CCIE on a
pedestal
and claim that those that hold it are the 'masters' of the networking domain
seems quite foolish to me. As Howard mentioned here, most of the best
people
in networking do not bother wasting their time getting certifications, their
experience in the field and accomplishments in the standards area is what
guarantees their respectibility. In case you don't recognize those names
listed, much of these are the people that create the standards, oversee the
IETF working groups etc. In addition, these are the programmers that
implement the protocols, does anyone here that holds their CCIE actually
believe they know more about OSPF than these people do? How about IS-IS or
BGP? Then why are some of you claiming that holding a CCIE is some sort of
requirement to teach about these protocols, even from a Cisco-oriented
stance?
Lets not shoot ourselves in the foot here, from lurking on this list I can
attest that Howard's answers are some of the best and most informative.
Don't
turn away one of your best resources. And don't allow four letters and a
number make your head too big.
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