From: kym blair (kymblair@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Dec 19 2001 - 09:03:01 GMT-3
Ivan,
Almost forgot:
Internet Routing Architectures, Halabi 157870233X (BGP); read this before
Doyle's Vol II. They both teach BGP well by walking you through examples.
They have different ideas, so both are great books.
Kym
>From: "kym blair" <kymblair@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "kym blair" <kymblair@hotmail.com>
>To: limmt@lycosasia.com, ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Re: Lab prep
>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:34:17 +0000
>
>Ivan,
>
>Most importantly, you need lots of hands-on practice. At least get a
>4-serial router for a frame switch (an old 4000 or AGS+ will do; 2520 if
>you
>have more money); four routers with various serial, ethernet, token ring,
>and isdn ports; one router with FastEthernet (2620 or 2621), and a catalyst
>2900 or 5000 switch. Also, get an ISDN simulator as soon as you can. ISDN
>is difficult and you'll want to work it into as many scenarios as you can
>so
>you get use to it gradually. Don't waste your money on 2501 routers;
>always
>get a router with at least one extra interface (like a 2503, 2513, 2511,
>2514, etc.). The 4500 and 4700 routers are much faster than 2500 routers,
>and pretty versatile; but they draw more power and make more noise. You'll
>want to get more routers later if you can afford them.
>
>1) A really great book for a wide variety of beginning tasks (because it
>tells you exactly what to do for each step) is:
>
> All-in-One CCIE Lab Study Guide, Hutnik ISBN 0071351086
>
>2) Then: Cisco CCIE Lab Practice Kit, Satterlee&Hutnik ISBN 0072127766X
>
>Then you're ready to get serious about learning the finer points of routing
>protocols:
>
>3) Routing TCP/IP Volume 1, Jeff Doyle 1578700418 (especially good OSPF
>section)
>
>4) Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches, Caslow 0130903892
>
>5) Routing TCP/IP Volume II, Jeff Doyle 1578700892 (BGP4 and Multicast)
>
>6) Cisco LAN Switching, Kennedy Clark, 1578700949
>
>7) Developing IP Multicast Networks Vol 1, Beau Williamson, 1578700779
>
>8) Cisco BGP4 Command and Config Handbook, Bill Parkhurst 158705017
>
>9) Configuring Cisco Routers for Bridging, DLSW+, and Desktop Protocols,
>Nam-Kee Tan 0071354573
>
>10) Advanced IP Routing in Cisco Networks, Slattery 0072125918
>
>
>
>Two books that are about to be released and sound good are:
>
>11) CCIE Practical Studies Volume 1, Karl Solie 1587200023
>
>12) Cisco Routing Illustrated: A Workbook for Ccies and Ccnps, Caslow
>013085266X
>
>After you think you know the rules and configurations for most tasks, you
>need to start doing scenarios that combine everything. www.fatkid.com and
>a
>bunch others offer free scenarios. I personally really like ipexpert.net
>(Cost about $475 but well worth it). Other people really like
>ccbootcamp.com (Cost about $650; I just receive mine today, so haven't had
>a
>chance to evaluate them).
>
>Don't rush your lab date; most people plan to try in six months. Maybe
>that
>is okay for the folks with years of experience. I had less than 2 years
>when I passed my CCIE written and will need way more than a year after
>passing the written before attempting the lab. It took me 4 or 5 months
>just to buy an ISDN simulator and enough routers and switches to get
>serious. It's been another six months now and I'm finally starting to
>thing
>most things are easy to do, given enough time. It will be six months or a
>year more before I can do most things quickly.
>
>So put at least 12 months in your mind and set a task list for each month,
>so you keep on track; for example:
>
>January: frame relay; ISDN, Catalyst 3920 token ring switch (there is a
>nice
>$75 simulation program often on eBay which gives you the feel of a 3920,
>but
>won't intgrate into your router lab)
>
>February: RIP, IGRP, EIGRP, OSPF, redistribution, route-maps, distribute
>lists (be sure you are practicing ospf over frame relay; many gotchas)
>
>March: BGP
>
>April: DLSW+
>
>May: voice, Catalyst 5000, ATM, NAT, NTP, IPX
>
>June: Multicast, IPSEC, GRE Tunnels, VPNs, Access-lists
>
>July: Queueing, Frame Relay Traffic Shaping, HSRP, DHCP support, Mobile IP
>
>ETC, ETC,
>
>Everyone has their own ideas, based on their past experiences and skills.
>Hope this is helpful.
>
>Kym
>
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>>From: "Ivan" <limmt@lycosasia.com>
>>Reply-To: "Ivan" <limmt@lycosasia.com>
>>To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>Subject: Lab prep
>>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:58:45 +0800
>>
>>Hi Group,
>>
>>I'm now starting to prepare for my CCIE Lab.
>>Need some advice on where can I get good Lab references
>>(eg. Scenario Practice questions) to start with and what are the key
>>recommended books that I should refer to.
>>
>>Appreciated for any advice.
>>
>>Ivan
>>
>>
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