From: Santarsiero, Bill (BSantarsiero@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Oct 11 2001 - 11:54:50 GMT-3
Dude,
You should back off and concentrate on the content of your labs. Why are
you so worried about format. I used bootcamp labs for content and nothing
more. If the one day format is that different, then people are going to
have to take it three times for format familiarization. What is so bad with
that. I had to do it with the two day lab!
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Russell
To: 'Jay Hennigan '
Cc: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
Sent: 10/11/01 1:15 AM
Subject: RE: 1-day lab format
So, do you really feel that this type of knowledge really gives someone
an
unfair advantage? I think this pushes the NDA to an extreme that wasn't
intended.
I suppose next it will be considered NDA to discuss what you ate for
lunch
during your exam.
My interpretation of technical content would be something more like this
"Hey did you hear that OSPF virtual-links now count for 90% of your
score,
better know that concept cold." If a CCIE candidate is going to actually
gain an advantage by knowing the extent of preconfiguration of basic IP,
interfaces, etc. he/she is going to fail miserably and it is a
non-issue.
How would this information help them pass the test? I guess I just don't
get
it. Help me see the light.
I have customers and competitors all going crazy over this 1-day format
deal. It doesn't make any difference, but it is a marketing issue I need
to
address. The skills, preparation, and knowledge required will be the
same
for either test format. If I can actually get a customer on the phone
and
explain it to them they usually understand that it doesn't matter.
It is just a customer perception problem I need to deal with. However,
going
through all of our older labs and updating them will be a lot of work
and I
would prefer to do it only once.
Marc Russell
www.ccbootcamp.com
mrussell@ccbootcamp.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Hennigan
To: Marc Russell
Cc: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
Sent: 10/10/01 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: 1-day lab format
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Marc Russell wrote:
> We are looking for feedback from individuals that have actually taken
the
> new 1-day lab. Please don't break the NDA, we don't want technical
content.
> We just want to know as to what extent the network is pre-configured.
Is it
> just basic IP addressing and activated interfaces or more complex
issues
> like ISDN setup, frame-relay setup, or basic routing protocols, etc.
How could revealing that information NOT be an NDA violation? What one
sees in the lab should stay in the lab. What Cisco chooses to reveal
about it can be found at Cisco's website. The pre-configuration of the
lab is indeed technical content, is it not?
-- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Administration - jay@west.net NetLojix Communications, Inc. - http://www.netlojix.com/ WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323
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