From: j killion (jkillion1977@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Oct 04 2001 - 09:54:43 GMT-3
please don't feed the troll.
--- Ron Carithers <RCARITHERS@edge2net.net> wrote:
> no i'm sorry. MCSEs are smarter, make better money,
> and get all the chicks
> too
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roberto [mailto:twinturbos@sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:30 PM
> To: Ron Carithers
> Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>
>
> All Mcse's are good for is rebooting their NT
> servers and then making up
> some complicated nonsensical excuse as to why it
> failed. Useless and not
> very smart. CCIE's the best. Period.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Carithers" <RCARITHERS@edge2net.net>
> To: <Monty.Majszak@Level3.com>;
> <twinturbos@sympatico.ca>;
> <hbae@nyc.rr.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:03 PM
> Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>
>
> > I think the MCSE is the way to go. All MCSEs are
> smarter than CCIEs
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Monty.Majszak@Level3.com
> [mailto:Monty.Majszak@Level3.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:01 PM
> > To: twinturbos@sympatico.ca; hbae@nyc.rr.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
> >
> >
> > well, i don't know about the "tell them you are a
> CCIE and watch them
> > drool!!!" comment these days with the economy
> sucking ass the way it does.
> > Let's face it, everybody wants to believe what
> they've done or what their
> > doing is the right thing. I personally don't have
> a degree so, as stated
> > above, i choose to believe that getting my IE is
> the better way to go if i
> > want to be a network god, and I do honestly agree
> with you Roberto. My
> > attitude is anyone w/ a degree who underminds the
> CCIE is an idiot.
> > Congratulations for getting a degree, alot of well
> rounded bs education,
> > your a genious! A 4 year institution sold you on
> the idea that you need
> all
> > these classes to get a degree. Yes, by all means,
> if you want to get a
> > masters in networking, you'll take basket weaving
> 101, history, yada yada
> > yada(Seinfeld).
> >
> > Like I said above, everyone wants to believe what
> they do is the way to do
> > it. Yes, I am jealous of those that have a degree
> because I don't have the
> > time and patience, ok, don't have the patience
> anyway to get one myself.
> But
> > I'd have to think an employer w/ any brains would
> take a CCIE who really
> > knows their sh-- vs. a "college grad" who don't
> know sh--! Long live the
> > bias beliefs!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roberto [mailto:twinturbos@sympatico.ca]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:43 PM
> > To: Hansang Bae; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
> >
> >
> > CCIE : 2 semesters of Grad school? Which bit did
> you byte? I'll give you 2
> > cents to save your opinion. CCIE's are tops in the
> Networking industry
> just
> > like specializing doctors are tops in the medical
> field. A doctor who
> > graduates from med school with no experience isn't
> worth much until he
> gets
> > experience. CCIE's have experience and prove it by
> passing a lab exam. By
> > the way, go into an ISP and tell them you are an
> engineer with PHD and
> want
> > $150000/yr to configure BGP. They'll laugh in your
> face. On the other
> hand,
> > tell them you are a CCIE and watch them drool!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hansang Bae" <hbae@nyc.rr.com>
> > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:07 PM
> > Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
> >
> >
> > > At 09:40 PM 10/1/01 -0400, Scott Morris wrote:
> > > >When was the last time that you asked one of
> your doctors where they
> went
> > to
> > > >school?
> > >
> > > Every time I visit a new doctor. Their MD
> degree is on the wall. And
> the
> > > points you make are not valid AT ALL. Medical
> school is a 4 year
> > undergrad
> > > (being able to maintain a very high GPA), MCATs,
> 4 years of GRUELING
> > > medical school, 1 year of MORE GRUELING intern
> year, 3-7 years of EVEN
> > > MORE GRUELING residency. Oh, and you have to
> pass the national boards
> > > wirtten and oral.
> > >
> > > CCIE is what, a vendor cert that can be had w/
> less than one year of
> > > experience?
> > >
> > > I know you were just making a comparision, but I
> see people making these
> > > arguments w/o ever thinking it through. And it
> happens to be a pet
> peeve
> > > of mine (in case you couldn't guess that! <G>)
> > >
> > > IMO, CCIE is equivalent to one or two semesters
> of upper engineering
> > > undergrad courses. But of course, that's just
> my $0.02 worth - taxable
> in
> > > NYC <G>
> > >
> > > hsb
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