From: Ron Carithers (RCARITHERS@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Oct 03 2001 - 20:31:32 GMT-3
no i'm sorry. MCSEs are smarter, make better money, and get all the chicks
too
-----Original Message-----
From: Roberto [mailto:twinturbos@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:30 PM
To: Ron Carithers
Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
All Mcse's are good for is rebooting their NT servers and then making up
some complicated nonsensical excuse as to why it failed. Useless and not
very smart. CCIE's the best. Period.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Carithers" <RCARITHERS@edge2net.net>
To: <Monty.Majszak@Level3.com>; <twinturbos@sympatico.ca>;
<hbae@nyc.rr.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:03 PM
Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
> I think the MCSE is the way to go. All MCSEs are smarter than CCIEs
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Monty.Majszak@Level3.com [mailto:Monty.Majszak@Level3.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:01 PM
> To: twinturbos@sympatico.ca; hbae@nyc.rr.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>
>
> well, i don't know about the "tell them you are a CCIE and watch them
> drool!!!" comment these days with the economy sucking ass the way it does.
> Let's face it, everybody wants to believe what they've done or what their
> doing is the right thing. I personally don't have a degree so, as stated
> above, i choose to believe that getting my IE is the better way to go if i
> want to be a network god, and I do honestly agree with you Roberto. My
> attitude is anyone w/ a degree who underminds the CCIE is an idiot.
> Congratulations for getting a degree, alot of well rounded bs education,
> your a genious! A 4 year institution sold you on the idea that you need
all
> these classes to get a degree. Yes, by all means, if you want to get a
> masters in networking, you'll take basket weaving 101, history, yada yada
> yada(Seinfeld).
>
> Like I said above, everyone wants to believe what they do is the way to do
> it. Yes, I am jealous of those that have a degree because I don't have the
> time and patience, ok, don't have the patience anyway to get one myself.
But
> I'd have to think an employer w/ any brains would take a CCIE who really
> knows their sh-- vs. a "college grad" who don't know sh--! Long live the
> bias beliefs!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roberto [mailto:twinturbos@sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:43 PM
> To: Hansang Bae; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>
>
> CCIE : 2 semesters of Grad school? Which bit did you byte? I'll give you 2
> cents to save your opinion. CCIE's are tops in the Networking industry
just
> like specializing doctors are tops in the medical field. A doctor who
> graduates from med school with no experience isn't worth much until he
gets
> experience. CCIE's have experience and prove it by passing a lab exam. By
> the way, go into an ISP and tell them you are an engineer with PHD and
want
> $150000/yr to configure BGP. They'll laugh in your face. On the other
hand,
> tell them you are a CCIE and watch them drool!!!
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hansang Bae" <hbae@nyc.rr.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:07 PM
> Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>
>
> > At 09:40 PM 10/1/01 -0400, Scott Morris wrote:
> > >When was the last time that you asked one of your doctors where they
went
> to
> > >school?
> >
> > Every time I visit a new doctor. Their MD degree is on the wall. And
the
> > points you make are not valid AT ALL. Medical school is a 4 year
> undergrad
> > (being able to maintain a very high GPA), MCATs, 4 years of GRUELING
> > medical school, 1 year of MORE GRUELING intern year, 3-7 years of EVEN
> > MORE GRUELING residency. Oh, and you have to pass the national boards
> > wirtten and oral.
> >
> > CCIE is what, a vendor cert that can be had w/ less than one year of
> > experience?
> >
> > I know you were just making a comparision, but I see people making these
> > arguments w/o ever thinking it through. And it happens to be a pet
peeve
> > of mine (in case you couldn't guess that! <G>)
> >
> > IMO, CCIE is equivalent to one or two semesters of upper engineering
> > undergrad courses. But of course, that's just my $0.02 worth - taxable
in
> > NYC <G>
> >
> > hsb
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