From: Jason Sinclair (sinclairj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Oct 02 2001 - 21:21:39 GMT-3
Bob,
Couldn't agree more!!
Cheers,
Jason Sinclair
Team Leader - NSG
POWERTEL Limited
Level 11, 55 Clarence Street, SYDNEY
Phone: 61-2-8264-3820
Mobile: 0416 105 858
jasons@powertel.net.au
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Dixon [mailto:bobdixon@mediaone.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 10:08
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
Can we kill this thread at least until we get some actual
accounts and
opinions of the one-day lab.? A debate on the value of a
college education
versus a vendor cert could go on forever and I don't think
that anyone is
going to be easily persuaded differently from their belief.
DIE THREAD DIE!!!
(Ever since I saw the first guy on this list say "DIE THREAD
DIE" I've been
waiting for the opportunity to say that. I think that this
thread was a
great time to use the ine.)
----- Original Message -----
From: Roberto <twinturbos@sympatico.ca>
To: Paul Schultz <khyron@ninjageek.org>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
> Are you serious? What are you talking about? If the job
title says
> "looking for a CCIE", and there are plenty of these, then
it means they
want
> a CCIE. Any big Cisco shop makes use of a CCIE because it
is stamp that
says
> you are a networking pro. On top of that, a CCIE saves
that Cisco shop a
lot
> of money by working for that company. Its guys like you
that are
pretenders:
> that wish they could be a CCIE but can't even come close.
You are full of
> degrees and certifications like MCSE and CNE but you are
paper champions
> until you pass the CCIE lab exam. Only when you get the
CCIE will you be
on
> the top in your mind and others'!
>
> << Word >>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Schultz" <khyron@ninjageek.org>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>
>
> > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Roberto wrote:
> >
> > > the way, go into an ISP and tell them you are an
engineer with PHD and
> want
> > > $150000/yr to configure BGP. They'll laugh in your
face. On the other
> hand,
> > > tell them you are a CCIE and watch them drool!!!
> >
> > And "watch them drool" ? I think you are sadly mistaken
about how well
> > valued the CCIE exam truly is.
> >
> > Who would <big isp> hire? A recent CCIE with <2 years
of actual
> > experience with the stuff or an experienced engineer
with no certs yet
> > also worked on the original building blocks of ARPANET?
> >
> > Aside from the VAR/Consultant business, don't expect a
CCIE cert to get
> > you more than a closer look when a business has to sort
through a ton of
> > resumes. Proven experience and knowledge get you the
jobs, a 4 letter
> > acronym will not.
> >
> >
> > Paul
> > **Please
read:http://www.groupstudy.com/list/posting.html
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