From: Monty.Majszak@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue Oct 02 2001 - 20:01:08 GMT-3
well, i don't know about the "tell them you are a CCIE and watch them
drool!!!" comment these days with the economy sucking ass the way it does.
Let's face it, everybody wants to believe what they've done or what their
doing is the right thing. I personally don't have a degree so, as stated
above, i choose to believe that getting my IE is the better way to go if i
want to be a network god, and I do honestly agree with you Roberto. My
attitude is anyone w/ a degree who underminds the CCIE is an idiot.
Congratulations for getting a degree, alot of well rounded bs education,
your a genious! A 4 year institution sold you on the idea that you need all
these classes to get a degree. Yes, by all means, if you want to get a
masters in networking, you'll take basket weaving 101, history, yada yada
yada(Seinfeld).
Like I said above, everyone wants to believe what they do is the way to do
it. Yes, I am jealous of those that have a degree because I don't have the
time and patience, ok, don't have the patience anyway to get one myself. But
I'd have to think an employer w/ any brains would take a CCIE who really
knows their sh-- vs. a "college grad" who don't know sh--! Long live the
bias beliefs!
-----Original Message-----
From: Roberto [mailto:twinturbos@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:43 PM
To: Hansang Bae; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
CCIE : 2 semesters of Grad school? Which bit did you byte? I'll give you 2
cents to save your opinion. CCIE's are tops in the Networking industry just
like specializing doctors are tops in the medical field. A doctor who
graduates from med school with no experience isn't worth much until he gets
experience. CCIE's have experience and prove it by passing a lab exam. By
the way, go into an ISP and tell them you are an engineer with PHD and want
$150000/yr to configure BGP. They'll laugh in your face. On the other hand,
tell them you are a CCIE and watch them drool!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hansang Bae" <hbae@nyc.rr.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
> At 09:40 PM 10/1/01 -0400, Scott Morris wrote:
> >When was the last time that you asked one of your doctors where they went
to
> >school?
>
> Every time I visit a new doctor. Their MD degree is on the wall. And the
> points you make are not valid AT ALL. Medical school is a 4 year
undergrad
> (being able to maintain a very high GPA), MCATs, 4 years of GRUELING
> medical school, 1 year of MORE GRUELING intern year, 3-7 years of EVEN
> MORE GRUELING residency. Oh, and you have to pass the national boards
> wirtten and oral.
>
> CCIE is what, a vendor cert that can be had w/ less than one year of
> experience?
>
> I know you were just making a comparision, but I see people making these
> arguments w/o ever thinking it through. And it happens to be a pet peeve
> of mine (in case you couldn't guess that! <G>)
>
> IMO, CCIE is equivalent to one or two semesters of upper engineering
> undergrad courses. But of course, that's just my $0.02 worth - taxable in
> NYC <G>
>
> hsb
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