Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits

From: Donald B Johnson jr (dbjohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Oct 02 2001 - 15:03:18 GMT-3


   
Actually 500Hz = .5KHz
Just a little RF humor.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sasa Milic" <smilic@EUnet.yu>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits

> Guys,
>
> who told you that kilohertz is 1024 hertz ?!
>
>
> Sasa
>
> Jeff Kesemeyer wrote:
> >
> > Actually it started with #1024.
> > Where kilohertz starts, "it's either going to kill or hurt them ."
> > Started by TAC as a who knows more type test.
> >
> > I believe #1024 is for the lab itself.
> > I know Terry Slattery #1026 was the second.
> > He was in charge of a rewrite of the operating system, from that learned
> > ever command very well.
> > Since he was a consultant he was also the first non-Cisco employee to
get
> > it.
> >
> > Jeff Kesemeyer
> > CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNE
> > www.bradshawlabs.com
> > "Your CCIE Rack Rental Source"
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > Monty.Majszak@Level3.com
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 6:18 PM
> > To: bruce@williamsnetworking.com; Jim.Brown@CaseLogic.com;
> > jkaberna@netcginc.com; scking@cisco.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
> >
> > Bravo, well said guys. It's Cisco's cert and it appears as though
they're
> > going to do what they like with it so there's no point in sitting around
> > griping about it. Stupid question, but anyone know who the very first
CCIE
> > was and if so if there still around, just curious. The first one would
be
> > 1001 right? Didn't they start at that #?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bruce Williams [mailto:bruce@williamsnetworking.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:59 PM
> > To: Jim Brown; 'John Kaberna'; R. Scott King; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
> >
> > That is a good point about the early CCIE Labs. If they decided to let
us
> > bring notes and stuff into the Lab now, we would all say that it is too
> > easy. However, in reality it was extremely difficult back then and it
always
> > will be. I guess we dont really have to worry about the CCIE losing it's
> > value.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Brown" <Jim.Brown@CaseLogic.com>
> > To: "'John Kaberna'" <jkaberna@netcginc.com>; "R. Scott King"
> > <scking@cisco.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 5:40 PM
> > Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
> >
> > > The test has been in a state of change since its inception. In the
days of
> > > yesteryear....
> > >
> > > Candidates received all the material from the get go. You could go
home
> > and
> > > research topics on the test and come back then next day and complete.
> > >
> > > Candidates could bring in laptops with them to use for configuration
with
> > > any digital material they desired.
> > >
> > > You could haul in any paper configs, books, or notes to take the exam.
> > >
> > > How about the CCIE's who took their exam during the early 90's on 5-6
AGS
> > > routers with 10.0 code? Voice over X, IPSec, and other crazy features?
> > >
> > > The exam is in just another state of flux. Anybody that tells me it is
> > worth
> > > less know than it was a few years back is high. There are more
features,
> > > more material to cover, and more hardware.
> > >
> > > One day, two day, who cares. It is your skill and knowledge that will
> > carry
> > > you. I will consider the cert proof of my ability to learn and
comprehend
> > > new technologies.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Kaberna [mailto:jkaberna@netcginc.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:12 PM
> > > To: R. Scott King; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
> > >
> > >
> > > Caslow and Remaker have both given their opinions about it. Caslow
> > admitted
> > > that there will be less topics (problem #1). TS is gone and even if
they
> > > change IP address or cables big deal (problem #2). People will now be
> > able
> > > to see the entire test without earning each section (problem #3).
There
> > > won't be a face-to-face debrief for people to potentially argue some
> > points
> > > (problem #4).
> > >
> > > You can argue that what I'm saying isn't true. At one point people
argued
> > > the world was flat too. Everything I just said is fact except for
> > Caslow's
> > > opinion. I think that his opinion on this subject should be weighed
very
> > > strongly though.
> > >
> > > John Kaberna
> > > CCIE #7146
> > > NETCG Inc.
> > > Cisco Premier Partner
> > > www.netcginc.com
> > > (415) 750-3800
> > >



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