From: Sakir Balikcioglu (sbalikcioglu@xxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Sun Aug 26 2001 - 13:07:36 GMT-3
Let's stop being sexist. I think these kind of comments have no place in
the study group. They are disruptive and irrelevant.
Norma's success has nothing to do with any of this.
Chuck.
At 12:53 AM 8/27/01 +1000, Robert Thompson wrote:
>Well, I'm impressed. Very well done.
>
>Once Upon a Time (i.e. a fairy story, but a true one) -
>I had my management choose a girl over a guy in selecting a contractor
>and she later found out and asked me why (the guy was better on paper)
>and I told her "well, I told my management that girls have to be twice as
>smart as guys in this job and we'd be stupid ourselves not to pick the
>smartest employee available". Close to the truth, and management bought
>that argument and signed her up (I had phrased it a little bit differently).
>Norma adds another example to this ^_^
>
>Anyone who complains there aren't enough high level IT staff is obviously
>just looking in the wrong place to find the talent.
>
>Now what has to be done is get all those other secretaries out there
>into action, although I suspect not all will get their CCIEs as quickly.
>
>And if we do get the secretaries in this will coincidentally help fix one
>of my
>long standing gripes about the IT industry - not enough [cute] girls.
>
>
>
>
>
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>At 02:14 AM 23/08/2001 -0500, Norma Schutt wrote:
> >Ok, my turn, my turn.
> >
> >I passed today in San Jose on my second attempt. It's strange. I keep
> >thinking I'm going to wake up in the morning and find out this is only a
> >dream. I think I'm the first female CCIE employed by Schlumberger. I'll
> >find out later when I get back to work.
> >
> >There were three people from Day 1 who made it to Day 2 in my group. The
> >weird thing is that all three of us got our numbers today. That was really
> >cool.
> >
> >The only advice I can give to people is to reread your foundational books
> >such as Doyle and Halabi. I got so much more out of reading those again
> >the second and third time through. I continued to learn tidbits even
> >though I thought I already knew most of it. And practice, practice,
> >practice. Be able to configure this stuff in your sleep because you won't
> >have time to figure it out then, yada yada yada. You've heard this all
> >before.
> >
> >Don't ever think you can't do this. It can be done. Two years and nine
> >months ago I quit my secretarial job because the pay sucked ($27k/yr) to
> >change careers and go into the IT field. See, I'd heard about this thing
> >called MCSE that paid about 10 grand more a year as a starting salary than
> >I was currently making. So, I quit my job and went through the Microsoft
> >classes and got my first job on a help desk in May, 1999. In August three
> >months later I got transferred from that help desk position over to the
> >Cisco-outsourced helpdesk called the "TAC". But, oh gosh, I gotta learn
> >about something called a router that kinda looked like a VCR. Whatever,
> >the pay was better and I didn't have to listen to anyone patter on about
> >not being able to get their mouse to work. But, none of my new co-workers
> >cared about my shiny new MCSE, all they talked about was this thing called
> >CCIE, which was something you got after you got your CCNA. Little did I
> >know at the time where that fork in the road would lead and that I'd
> >finally found my niche.
> >
> >Well it was two years ago this month that I first learned what a router was
> >and how they made a network go. And look at me now. Crying on the
> >proctor's shoulder this afternoon sobbing "I've got my life back!" I
> >couldn't stop laughing and crying simultaneously. I'm sure they thought I
> >was nuts, but, hey, I didn't care. The stress had me a bit crazy here at
> >the end, anyway. And if anyone doesn't like it, I'm a CCIE and can kick
> >your butt... :-)
> >
> >So, that's about it.
> >
> >Norma
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Regards,
(Chuck) Balikcioglu, Sakir
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