RE: Cisco 3920 simulator

From: Nathan Casassa (ncasassa@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Jun 05 2001 - 01:21:00 GMT-3


   
 To whom it may concern,

What Dmitry did is the same thing CCBOOTCAMP and others have done. He
offered a demo service for free, and if your interested you may purchase
more just like CCBOOTCAMP is attempting to do: "here is some free rack time"
if you like it then buy some more time (although not in those direct words
it is obviosly implied - nobody buys bandwidth, web space, and a crap load
of expensive routers and switches among many other expenses just because
they like giving it away for free). The only difference here was Dmitry did
not make a deal with Groupstudy and give them money for sponsorship and
collaborate to use the subscriber database to send what are actually just
subtle advertisements.

And I don't think CCIE #6179 is going to lose much sleep over getting kicked
off a list that he stopped needing over 1,300 CCIE numbers ago (which maybe
tells you he is still around because he still has an interest in the group
that helped him become what he is, yet the moderator kicked him off out of
the blue after never saying a word to lots of posts of people trying to sell
routers and other services...

(Paul already hates me so I expect to be the next be blacklisted, but thats
okay because I am pretty sure I can figure out if the proctor will let me
use notepad without this list)

Nate

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Roman Rodichev
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:44 PM
> To: pborghese@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Cc: DZaitsev@thrupoint.net
> Subject: Re: Cisco 3920 simulator
>
>
> That was so mean!!! the guy was trying to help everybody! People
> charge for
> using their labs remotely? And what have they done? Spent money,
> connected
> couple of routers, and kachin... $$$ Dimitry wanted to actually
> spend time
> writing the code... and, yes, charge money for it. What's wrong with that?
>
> I think we should vote for bringing him back?
>
> that was rude. Paul why don't you remove everyone who is trying to sell
> their routers here!
>
> >From: "Paul Borghese" <pborghese@groupstudy.com>
> >Reply-To: "Paul Borghese" <pborghese@groupstudy.com>
> >To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Subject: Re: Cisco 3920 simulator
> >Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:20:09 -0400
> >
> >I am trying to keep this list as commercial free as possible. One of the
> >rules of the list is not to advertise through the list. Because
> of this,
> >he
> >has been removed - which I really hate doing. I know it is
> harsh, but do
> >we
> >really want vendors advertising on the list?
> >
> >Paul Borghese
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Dmitry Zaitsev" <DZaitsev@thrupoint.net>
> >To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 3:56 PM
> >Subject: OT: Cisco 3920 simulator
> >
> >
> > > Getting CCIE just got easier.. :)
> > > You dont have to spend 2K on this rare beast anymore..
> > > I have decided to write a Cisco 3920 simulator a just released a demo.
> > > Please send me your requests for the demo version and pricing
> info on a
> >full
> > > one.
> > >
> > > Dmitry Zaitsev
> > > CCIE #6179
> > >
> > > P.S. Please dont flame me for this Ad, we all can benefit from this
> > > product.
> > > **Please read:http://www.groupstudy.com/list/posting.html
> >**Please read:http://www.groupstudy.com/list/posting.html



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