From: Rob Hopkins (rshopkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Apr 19 2001 - 15:26:34 GMT-3
Could you designate master browsers at each side and point an ip helper at
each from the opposite side?
This works with a wins server, name resolution should work, browsing is
kinda iffy, you may need to enable file/print sharing just in case...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Yeo" <kenyeo@on-linecorp.com>
To: "Pickell, Aaryn" <Aaryn.Pickell@getronics.com>; "'Vijay Venkatesh'"
<vijay.venkatesh@usa.net>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Network Neighborhood - Multiple Subnets - Workgroup only - No
Domain.]
> Since there is not NT server available, NT domain is not an option.
> Another thought is install NETBEUI on all workstations and bridge NETBEUI
> traffice across the serial link and route IP. But as you said, it is not a
> good design because it forwards broadcasts across the serial link.
>
> Attached is the ip helper portion of the config, it is not working. Any
> ideas?
>
> R1:
> interface Ethernet0/0
>
> ip address 172.30.1.1 255.255.255.0
>
> ip helper-address 172.16.0.9
>
> ip helper-address 172.30.0.255
>
> no ip directed-broadcast
>
> ipx helper-address 1000.0000.f4af.003c
>
> ipx network 2502C01
>
>
>
> R2:
>
> interface FastEthernet1/0
>
> ip address 172.30.0.1 255.255.255.0
>
> ip helper-address 172.16.0.9
>
> ip helper-address 172.30.1.255
>
> no ip directed-broadcast
>
> duplex auto
>
> speed 10
>
> ipx helper-address 1000.0000.f4af.003c
>
> ipx network 2501C01
>
> !
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pickell, Aaryn" <Aaryn.Pickell@getronics.com>
> To: "'Vijay Venkatesh'" <vijay.venkatesh@usa.net>; "Ken Yeo"
> <kenyeo@on-linecorp.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 3:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [Network Neighborhood - Multiple Subnets - Workgroup only -
No
> Domain.]
>
>
> > As far as getting all routers to see each other in Network Neighborhood,
> > using ip helper-address is the cisco-centric fix. Per Microsoft, the
fix
> is
> > to use a domain model instead of a workgroup model.
> >
> > Ip helper was meant to forward UDP broadcasts, including but not limited
> to
> > bootp. By default, there are a bunch of ports that will be forwarded
> (tftp,
> > netbios, bootp, etc.), and you can add more ports (or remove existing
> ports)
> > to the list with the ip forward-protocol command.
> >
> > By using this for windows browsing, though... you're going to consume a
> lot
> > of your WAN bandwidth, because all windows netbios traffic is going to
be
> > forwarded in all directions, not just the master browser elections.
> >
> > Ken, what you wrote should have worked. The theory is sound, anyway.
If
> > you forward me your configs, maybe we can figure out what was missing.
> >
> > Aaryn Pickell - CCNP, CCDP, MCSE
> > Senior Engineer - Routing Protocols
> > Getronics Inc.
> > Direct: 713-394-1609
> > Email:aaryn.pickell@getronics.com
> >
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> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vijay Venkatesh [mailto:vijay.venkatesh@usa.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 3:01 PM
> > > To: Ken Yeo; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Network Neighborhood - Multiple Subnets -
> > > Workgroup only -
> > > No Domain.]
> > >
> > >
> > > Old issue -
> > > see the archives -
> > >
> > > Solution: Use WINS
> > > ip helpers are for DHCP only. read up on the standards doc.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Vijay.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ken Yeo" <kenyeo@on-linecorp.com> wrote:
> > > > Question:
> > > >
> > > > 4 subnets seperated by Cisco routers. Running Netware 5.1
> > > servers in all
> > > > location. No NT servers. All windows 95 workstations in all
> > > branches are
> > > setup
> > > > with the same workgroup name, WORKGROUP. All workstations
> > > use the same WINS
> > > > server. Netbios name resolution to IP is fine.
> > > >
> > > > How need to be done so that if I open network neighborhood,
> > > I can see all
> > > > Windows 95 workstations in all locations?
> > > >
> > > > Here is my understanding:
> > > >
> > > > Browser election will occur in each subnet and one of the Windows 95
> > > > workstations will become master browser for the WORKGROUP
> > > on the local
> > > > subnet.
> > > >
> > > > Since browser elections are broadcast, the are blocked by
> > > router and thus
> > > each
> > > > master browser does not know about other master browsers in
> > > all other
> > > subnets.
> > > > So we can only see local workstations in network neighborhood.
> > > >
> > > > So I tried these:
> > > >
> > > > Enable ip helpder-address 172.16.1.255 (LAN masks are
> > > 24-bit)in all LAN
> > > > interfaces and point to each other. I hope that ip
> > > helper-address will
> > > forward
> > > > netbios broadcast to all subnets and trick the workstations
> > > there is only
> > > one
> > > > network. So only one master browser instead of four master
> > > browsers were
> > > > elected. But it does not work and workstations from another
> > > subnets will
> > > not
> > > > showing in network neighborhood.
> > > >
> > > > I have not tried browstat.exe yet..
> > > >
> > > > What do you think? Please advice,
> > > > Ken
> > > > **Please read:http://www.groupstudy.com/list/posting.html
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