From: Mike L. Chase (mchase@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Apr 18 2001 - 00:32:45 GMT-3
Pretty much any of the times I took the test, at both San Jose & RTP, I had acc
ess to
windows notepad and also calculator, plus the doc CD. A while back, using note
pad wasn't
much of a benefit though due to slow machines (one time I did a copy and paste
and it took
10 minutes!! I was like oh noooooo!), but most of the lab locations NOW have br
and new
windows 2000 machines and they work really great. Cisco is quite committed to k
eeping
their lab pristine and well maintained with the latest stuff. RTP has a new big
room with
windows (non microsoft kind! switch modes with me guys!) so you can see outside
(which is
nice, a bit more relaxing watching the pine trees sway in the wind). I was st
ill pretty
stressed out, all that waiting in the lobby in the morning, at lunch, between s
ections,
but humor kept me going and Alan is a nice guy to just talk to about trivial st
uff on a
break. I also found out that Alan/proctor has a huge background in SNA! Very
impressive
combined with Cisco; that is a lot of info in that guys brain!
Rgds/
Mike L. Chase, CCIE #7226
Sr. Network Architect
ISG: Information Services Group
Broadcom Corporation World Headquarters
MailDrop E1159-A
47 Discovery Street, Irvine, California USA 92618
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email : mchase@broadcom.com AIM:MikeLChase
-----Original Message-----
From: Sal Nathoo [mailto:snathoo2001@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:44 PM
To: Mike L. Chase; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Mike Chase, CCIE # 7226 / BROADCOM CORP.
Hi Mike,
Wow, Congrats!!
Thanks for the inspiring story.
My date is July 16th in RTP, first attempt.
Just one question. Were you allowed to use notepad.exe
in the lab at RTP?
Thanks,
Saleem
--- "Mike L. Chase" <mchase@broadcom.com> wrote:
> On my 4th attempt, and after 2 years of all
> consuming, unrelenting study, I have passed
> the CCIE exam in RTP about 1 hr ago. :-) My
> previous lab attempts were Feb 2000 (SJC),
> June 2000(SJC), September 2000 (RTP).
>
> Truly insane experience. I hold MCSE, MCNE, and
> other certifications but nothing even
> begins to compare to the CCIE program, which I am
> extremely proud to now be a member of.
>
> Alan is by far THE superior proctor and I've had my
> share; RTP is a great site in general
> to take the test.
>
> So .. the usual question..what did I study to get my
> CCIE ?
>
> Ok, some advice (in this order)
>
> 1. Find a study partner. If you can find someone
> who already knows the ropes, then find
> someone who is as rabid as you are about getting
> certified. Once you start this process,
> you can't stop until you are done or you stand
> little chance of catching back up with the
> new wave of technology; the lab is very up to the
> minute.
>
> 2. It's not how much you read, it's what you read.
> Learn to sort the wheat from the chaff
> quickly. Only 1 in 10 books out there is even worth
> reading. As for me, for nearly a
> year I carried a backpack around with the latest
> book I was reading in it. I read 14,000
> pages cover to cover in 9 months; every spare moment
> was reading.
>
> 3. Not everything on CCO is correct. Use disparate
> sources of information to figure out
> the truth. Nothing beats trying it out in your
> home/work lab first; seeing IS believing.
>
> 4. The ECP1 class was very good; I took it 2 weeks
> ago and Fred Ingham was our instructor
> (he's awesome!). I FINALLY got answers to gnawing
> questions I had that previously went
> unresolved. ECP1 was the glue that put the vast
> array of knowledge together so that it
> made sense. (FYI go with your study partner, I did,
> and it's a HUGE benefit)
>
> 5. The CCBootCamp Labs are good although sometimes I
> wonder what the point of the scenario
> is. Of course, I wondered that very question to
> myself several times in the real lab over
> the last 2 days at some points in the test haha.
>
> 6. Obviously without equipment you won't get far.
> The important thing is that your
> equipment is accessible so that even if it's at work
> you can dial or vpn into it when at
> 2am you get that bug in your brain and wanna try a
> scenario or command out.
>
> 7. Learn to be humorous. It will help pass the
> boring moments waiting to find out if you
> passed each section in the lab, and it's the only
> way to live when under stress. Don't
> get cocky, just kick back and plow onward with the
> attitude that if I pass I pass but if I
> don't pass I am going to learn a whole damn lot.
> Fool you once? Shame on them. Fool you
> twice? Shame on you! Know what I mean?! Learn from
> your mistakes.
>
> 8. All proctors are not evil. Most are .. but not
> all ;-) ALL however have been
> trained exceedingly well in the art of mental
> torture. Most do a great job of "echo
> talking" which means you go up to ask what the heck
> a given section is asking for, and
> they "echo" or repeat the whole paragraph back to
> you, changing little or none of the
> verbage and then stare at you like you're the idiot.
> Expect it, embrace it, get over
> it. View the opportunity to walk up to the
> proctors desk as nothing more than a chance
> to stretch your legs, because essentially that is
> all it will be. :-) Asking
> intelligent questions however might buy you some
> mercy with the proctor since they will
> perhaps grasp that you do, have at least, a decent
> idea about the technologies at hand.
>
> 9. Learn to draw. Draw networks for fun, and
> quickly! Getting your spacing right every
> time on paper PLUS being able to fit a million
> details into it is a GOOD habit. Document
> EVERYTHING down to the Nth degree.
>
> 10. Get a life. You haven't had one since you
> started the CCIE path, so the biggest part
> of passing the CCIE exam is that you finally get
> back in touch with yourself and reality.
> Whew huh ?!
>
> Thanks to all the friends, family, and to Broadcom
> Corporation who fully and
> enthusiastically supported me. And good luck to
> everyone on here; don't give up! If you
> are moving ahead with your knowledge level, then you
> are already achieving.
>
> FYI If you are a CCIE written candidate and want a
> job in San Jose, let me know. We have
> a huge facility up there and need a good network
> guy.
>
> Rgds/
>
> Mike L. Chase, CCIE #7226
> Sr. Network Architect
> ISG: Information Services Group
> Broadcom Corporation World Headquarters
> MailDrop E1159-A
> 47 Discovery Street, Irvine, California USA 92618
> OFC=949-585-6057;CELL=949-290-7065; FAX=949-585-6590
> email : mchase@broadcom.com AIM:MikeLChase
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