From: Chuck Larrieu (chuck@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Feb 22 2001 - 21:55:35 GMT-3
>>There are answers?!?!?<<
It depends.... ;->
Seriously, and all sarcasm aside, the answers" often appear as if by magic
after putting in some reading and practice time. I suspect that like me,
many folks on this list may have underestimated the time it would take to
prepare, or may have even overestimated their own abilities. Study and
practice may have revealed some shortcomings. There may even be a number of
folks still under the mistaken impression that all it takes to become a CCIE
is to memorize the bootcamp lab configurations and regurgitate them in the
lab for a passing score.
Cisco talks about experience and study as the keys to success. I am
beginning to think that in terms CCIE exam, these are but a small part of
the preparation requirements. The point of bootcamp or fatkid or solutions
is not that memorizing configs means passing scores, but that there are a
number of ways to do things, not all of which are optimal, but all of which
have implications. The favorite seems to be bizarre frame relay setups, and
then the requirement to make OSPF work across them. The point of these
exercises is not to be deliberately obscure, but to train one to instantly
recognize the various issues and implications, bang out the configs, and
move on.
I have run into this my several times now, in ASET, in Mentor Vlabs, and in
bootcamp. Every time I find I make the same mistake - I solve the problem
trial and error, fool myself into thinking I know it, and repeat the process
the next time.
A few weeks back someone posted a message talking about layer two problems
that took to much time to solve. At ASET it finally sunk through my own
thick head that if I didn't put in some serious practice time just dealing
with these bizarre frame relay scenarios - forget the OSPF part - that I
would be wasting my time showing my face in the lab. So I am spending a
couple of days doing nothing but frame relay configs, then laying OSPF and
seeing if I can spot the issue and compensate as a matter of habit rather
than as a matter of constantly referring to the sh ip ospf int outputs and
trying to match hello times or changing ip ospf netw types. This is boring,
I have to say. I'd much rather be solving complex puzzles and then telling
myself how clever I am.
In any case, sorry for the long post on basics most of you already
understand. Sometimes I just need to write this stuff out as a means of
focusing my thinking on a topic.
Chuck
>From: "Chuck Larrieu" <chuck@cl.cncdsl.com>
>Reply-To: "Chuck Larrieu" <chuck@cl.cncdsl.com>
>To: "Nicholas Jaksec" <jaksec@lucent.com>, "CCIE" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: RE: Answers to the bootcamp labs
>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:43:43 -0800
>
>The answers appear as if by magic after much study and practice.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>Nicholas Jaksec
>Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:09 AM
>To: CCIE
>Subject: Answers to the bootcamp labs
>
>Where can I find the answers to the bootcamp labs ??
>
>
>
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