From: Travis Niedens (niedentj@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Feb 20 2001 - 21:34:37 GMT-3
Robert,
1. Those commands can be dangerous, that is why this was mentioned in the
first place.
2. Try to learn "netiquette", stop capping words just to be a jerk.
3. Good luck with the commands, you crash a router with that and we'll see
how much you like them then.
Regards,
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "McCallum, Robert" <Robert.McCallum@let-it-be-thus.com>
To: "'Kevin Baumgartner'" <kbaumgar@cisco.com>; "Jack Yu"
<cciecn@yahoo.com>; "NoOne Important" <lm_nguyen@hotmail.com>;
<tniedens@cisco.com>; <Simon.Baxter@au.logical.com>; <markl11@hotmail.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 1:18 PM
Subject: RE: Undocumented IS-IS Commands
> GIVE IT A REST.
>
> YES THIS IS A CCIE MAILING LIST.
>
> WHO CARES IF YOU DO OR DON'T USE THEM IN THE LAB.
>
> THE PERSON WHO MAILED THEM IN THE FIRST INSTANCE WAS ONLY TRYING TO BE
> HELPFUL.
>
> With this amount of abuse being pertained from one person trying to be
> helpful then why bother. This list is becoming unbelievably pedantic
about
> what it should and shouldn't do. My view on "most" subjects if you don't
> like it - don't read it.
>
> NOW DROP THIS SUBJECT.
>
> P.S. I THANK THE PERSON WHO FIRST sent the email many threads ago. I
might
> use them in my day to day tasks on ISIS or I may not but I still thank you
> for sharing some information that I did not know about. After all ISN'T
> THIS LIST ABOUT SHARING INFO?????????????????
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Baumgartner [mailto:kbaumgar@cisco.com]
> Sent: 15 February 2001 22:40
> To: Jack Yu; NoOne Important; tniedens@cisco.com;
> Simon.Baxter@au.logical.com; markl11@hotmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Undocumented IS-IS Commands
>
>
> If this is a study group for ccie lab I don't see the reason to put
> undocumented
> commands on this list. You will not be required to use these commands in
the
> lab. And if you use them in the lab you could even cause a lot of
problems.
> Don't cause yourself more headaches than needed.
>
> The undocumented commands are not useless, but I would avoid using them
> in the lab. All the commands required for the lab should be on the cd.
> Now finding the commands or the right syntax on the cd
> can be a challenge sometimes.
>
> Kevin
>
> At 02:02 PM 2/15/01 -0800, Jack Yu wrote:
> >If there is a legitimate concern of the impacts of
> >some IOS commands, would it be nice to document them
> >seperately or at least mark them as "use with care" or
> >" should not use on production equipment"?
> >Please do not tell me all the so-called undocumented
> >commands are useless.
> >
> >I think as an educational list, this is where people
> >should post those undocumented commands.
> >No body should try to test anything on a crucial
> >production router, not to mention the undocumented
> >commands.
> >
> >Just my 2 cents.
> >
> >Jack
> >--- NoOne Important <lm_nguyen@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Instead of making you look like...well I am not
> > > making judgement here.(an
> > > educationstopper maybe???)
> > > Why not be like Mark and try to educate people on
> > > the list on what commands
> > > might "crash" your router? And why not try to
> > > educate people up to the
> > > capable "level" like yours.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Travis Niedens" <tniedens@cisco.com>
> > > >Reply-To: "Travis Niedens" <tniedens@cisco.com>
> > > >To: "Simon Baxter" <Simon.Baxter@au.logical.com>,
> > > "Mark Lewis"
> > > ><markl11@hotmail.com>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: Undocumented IS-IS Commands
> > > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:09:27 -0800
> > > >
> > > >I am aware of this. I just don't want people to be
> > > lead astray. Telling
> > > >people commands and not stating the possible
> > > ramifications is not wise.
> > > >Not
> > > >everyone on this list is up to the "level" I would
> > > say is capable of
> > > >understanding the impact. If you get questions such
> > > as what does the "*"
> > > >mean in show ip route's output, which we do on
> > > here, you are not at the
> > > >level to understand the issues involved with
> > > undocumented commands. I am
> > > >not trying to stop education, but at the same time
> > > I don't want people just
> > > >punching in commands because they find it on here.
> > > >
> > > >Travis
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Simon Baxter" <Simon.Baxter@au.logical.com>
> > > >To: "Mark Lewis" <markl11@hotmail.com>;
> > > <tniedens@cisco.com>;
> > > ><ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > >Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:18 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: Undocumented IS-IS Commands
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Remember this list is publically available via
> > > the web site.....
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Mark Lewis [mailto:markl11@hotmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 11:31 AM
> > > > > To: tniedens@cisco.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: Undocumented IS-IS Commands
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > People on this list are proficient enough to
> > > make their own judgements
> > > >as
> > > >to
> > > > >
> > > > > the issues you raise.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Travis Niedens" <tniedens@cisco.com>
> > > > > >To: "Mark Lewis" <markl11@hotmail.com>,
> > > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: Undocumented IS-IS Commands
> > > > > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:40:39 -0800
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Word to the wise.. and even unwise...
> > > undocumented commands are
> > > > > >undocumented
> > > > > >for a reason. They are for people that know
> > > why they are there and for
> > > > > >Cisco Engineers to diagnose issues. I know
> > > there are several of these
> > > >that
> > > > > >can end up crashing your router and should
> > > never we used on production
> > > > > >equipment; futhermore, they will NOT be on the
> > > CCIE Lab.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Travis Niedens
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Mark Lewis" <markl11@hotmail.com>
> > > > > >To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > >Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 12:10 AM
> > > > > >Subject: Undocumented IS-IS Commands
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here are a few undocumented IS-IS commands
> > > you might like to try
> > > >out:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > show isis timers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > show isis private
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > show isis database private
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > show spf-log detail
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > show isis tree
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hope you all find them useful!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mark
> > > > > > > CCIE#6280 / CCSI#21051
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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