From: Tyler Pomerhn (tpomerhn@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Feb 20 2001 - 12:07:44 GMT-3
There's a VERY easy way to not be bothered by these emails... create a
filter. The subject clearly says "Off Topic."
While this IS a list for lab study, it's also a list for Cisco
Certification-related topics. As the numerous responses to this list
attest, this is a topic of much interest to all concerned, and I find it
to be a refreshing debate in the chaos of "OSPF is keeping my ISDN line
up because I don't have ip ospf demand-circuit" configured" nonsense...
tp
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Hardin Les - SMTP
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:49 PM
> To: Tyler Pomerhn; John A Field
> Cc: Mark Lewis; brian@andyandbrian.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>
>
> Hey folks,
>
> No disrespect intended as you all make good, mostly valid,
> points, but I
> think everyone interested in this subject should write Cisco (or your
> Congressperson), find a chat room, and go have a good group
> chat. The rest
> of us would like to discuss technical matters. Thank you.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> At 02:43 PM 2/15/2001 -0500, Tyler Pomerhn wrote:
> >Well, I can't speak for foreign sites, but RTP and SJ have
> done weekend
> >dates for a LONG time, now.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John A Field [mailto:fieldja@us.ibm.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:39 PM
> > > To: Tyler Pomerhn
> > > Cc: Mark Lewis; brian@andyandbrian.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a little wrinkle to point out. More and more locations
> > > have opened
> > > up weekend test dates inorder to accomodate the backlog of
> > > people waiting
> > > to take the exam. Hence, we can conclude more individuals are
> > > able to take
> > > and pass the exam each month.
> > >
> > >
> > > John Field
> > > CCDP, CCNP + Voice Access, CCNP + Security, MCSE
> > > Sr. IT Specialist / Design Architect
> > > IBM Global Services - Integrated Technology Services
> > > Phone: (818) 539-3123 (T/L 396)
> > > Cellular: (714) 235-2287
> > > Internet e-mail: fieldja@us.ibm.com
> > > Visit our Website at: http://w3.ibm.com/services/pss/us
> > > (Embedded image moved to file: pic22565.pcx)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Tyler Pomerhn" <tpomerhn@cisco.com>@groupstudy.com on
> > > 02/15/2001 11:21:27
> > > AM
> > >
> > > Please respond to "Tyler Pomerhn" <tpomerhn@cisco.com>
> > >
> > > Sent by: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > >
> > >
> > > To: "Mark Lewis" <markl11@hotmail.com>,
> <brian@andyandbrian.com>,
> > > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > cc:
> > > Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I know what you're saying, but it does SEEM like the pass
> > > > rate has really jumped since dec/lat/lane/etc. have come
> > > off the test.
> > >
> > > Let me lay out two very clear facts, here:
> > >
> > > 1) The pass rate is higher, and
> > > 2) The test is easier.
> > >
> > > > Remember, all the
> > > > resources (bootcamp labs/etc) have been around for
> quite a while.
> > >
> > > Yup. And back when these resources weren't around, the
> CCIE wasn't as
> > > hard as it was in late '99 because of fewer IOS features to
> > > exploit for
> > > "landmines" and such.
> > >
> > > > The CCIE numbers have been growing at about a thousand a year
> > >
> > > I think it's amazing that since 1993, the CCIE has grown
> from 1024 to
> > > 6890 or so. Coming up on 6,000 numbers given out in only 8
> > > years. I just
> > > want that trend to continue.
> > >
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