From: Scott Benton (syn_spinner@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Feb 15 2001 - 18:22:12 GMT-3
IMHO Cisco will keep the difficulty level more or less
on an even keel. The test may be easier at the moment,
but that will change. If you have followed the cert
for several years you see trends. There are usually
2-3 months out of a year where numbers are given out
left and right. The majority of the year the pass rate
remains low. Cisco basically has no way to rate the
difficulty of new tests other than "beta" testing them
on cadidates. The test is going through fairly major
revisions at the moment due to older technologies
being removed and new ones being added. When they note
high pass rates on tests they will make them more
difficult and put them back into circulation. This
also appears to happen when nobody is passing
particular tests they are rewritten to make them
easier. There is a certain statistical pass rate that
they want to maintain and they will revise until they
are seeing it. Besides that, if you look at the
distribution right now, there are still only about
5300 worldwide and about 2400 in the US. If you figure
roughly 1000 in the US work for Cisco, you are still
in very high demand.
Scott
Scott
--- Peter <peter@web53.com> wrote:
> Lemme guess, you are CCIE # 2XXX? Bullshit. Talk
> to some of those guys. I
> work with about 20 CCIE's and everyone who got
> theirs 2-3 years ago all
> agree that the test itself is much more difficult
> today. There are way more
> features in IOS than there was. So why are more
> people passing? Marketing,
> the internet, hype about certification, exam prep
> material, etc. Never
> before have there been recepies on how to get
> certified. To all those who
> have passed and are now saying how easy it is, get
> off your high horse.
> Yes, you have learned much more than you previously
> know, but the
> difficulity of the exam still remains the same.
>
> Peter
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tyler Pomerhn" <tpomerhn@cisco.com>
> To: "Kenneth Sacca" <ksacca@cisco.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>;
> <markl11@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:30 PM
> Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>
>
> > > Jeez this topic is boring and so out of touch
> with
> > > reality. I bet most of the complainers here are
> > > former MCSE, CNE, ASE, A+ and all of those other
> > > certification holders.
> >
> > If it's so boring, why the scathing email?
> >
> > ...and good comparison - if the trend keeps up,
> CCIE's won't be worth
> > anything more than a MCSE. If that comes about, I
> wouldn't bother with
> > the effort of even trying.
> >
> > > Your career isn't based on a certification. You
> > > will never have a little fraternity of 5000
> CCIEs
> > > worldwide, where no one else can join the club.
> >
> > CCIE's dictate careers. Face it. And of course, as
> time goes on,
> > there'll be more and more CCIE's. But you cannot
> argue with me saying
> > that the test hasn't gotten easier. Believe me, I
> know a good deal about
> > the program (being inside Cisco and at the RTP
> site), and you cannot win
> > this argument with me.
> >
> > We're not saying "Don't let anyone into the club."
> We're saying, "Make
> > it just as difficult to get into the club now as
> it was when I joined."
> >
> >
>
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