From: Tyler Pomerhn (tpomerhn@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Feb 15 2001 - 17:50:45 GMT-3
*SIGH* No, I'm in the 6xxx range. But that doesn't diminish my point. I
already admitted that I passed an easier exam. I was not constrasting
the new exams to the old 2xxx exams. That's another apples-to-oranges
comparison. Those exams were VERY different.
The difficulty got more and more difficult as time went on, but since
early last year, the difficulty has gone down. That's no bull. It's
FACT. The program has taken out a bunch of classic landmines, and hasn't
replaced it with newer IOS features that are more "real world."
The difficulty's gotten easier in the past year. Face it. It's not a
high horse, it's cold, hard reality.
Deal.
tp
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter [mailto:peter@web53.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 3:33 PM
> To: Tyler Pomerhn; Kenneth Sacca; ccielab@groupstudy.com;
> markl11@hotmail.com
> Subject: !Re: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>
>
> Lemme guess, you are CCIE # 2XXX? Bullshit. Talk to some of
> those guys. I
> work with about 20 CCIE's and everyone who got theirs 2-3
> years ago all
> agree that the test itself is much more difficult today.
> There are way more
> features in IOS than there was. So why are more people
> passing? Marketing,
> the internet, hype about certification, exam prep material,
> etc. Never
> before have there been recepies on how to get certified. To
> all those who
> have passed and are now saying how easy it is, get off your
> high horse.
> Yes, you have learned much more than you previously know, but the
> difficulity of the exam still remains the same.
>
> Peter
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tyler Pomerhn" <tpomerhn@cisco.com>
> To: "Kenneth Sacca" <ksacca@cisco.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>;
> <markl11@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:30 PM
> Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>
>
> > > Jeez this topic is boring and so out of touch with
> > > reality. I bet most of the complainers here are
> > > former MCSE, CNE, ASE, A+ and all of those other
> > > certification holders.
> >
> > If it's so boring, why the scathing email?
> >
> > ...and good comparison - if the trend keeps up, CCIE's
> won't be worth
> > anything more than a MCSE. If that comes about, I wouldn't
> bother with
> > the effort of even trying.
> >
> > > Your career isn't based on a certification. You
> > > will never have a little fraternity of 5000 CCIEs
> > > worldwide, where no one else can join the club.
> >
> > CCIE's dictate careers. Face it. And of course, as time goes on,
> > there'll be more and more CCIE's. But you cannot argue with
> me saying
> > that the test hasn't gotten easier. Believe me, I know a
> good deal about
> > the program (being inside Cisco and at the RTP site), and
> you cannot win
> > this argument with me.
> >
> > We're not saying "Don't let anyone into the club." We're
> saying, "Make
> > it just as difficult to get into the club now as it was
> when I joined."
> >
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