From: Jason T. Rohm (jtrohm@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Feb 15 2001 - 15:33:43 GMT-3
I disagree with Kenneth's comment about pay based on performance.
The bottom line for those of us who work on the retail side is that Cisco
has tied your certification directly to your equipment discount. More certs
= higher reseller level = lower wholesale equipment costs.
Additionally, our customers regularly make decisions about who to use based
on certifications. These two things alone are what drives the ungodly high
CCIE salaries.
I don't consider myself to be significantly more knowledgeable than before I
started my CCIE exam preparation, however my little number has increased my
market value by nearly 100%.
I agree that more preparation materials are available and that would
increase the passing rate. However, it seems that the pass rate has jumped
rather suddenly and that that jump seems to correspond to the change in the
test.
I think that it is logical to conclude from my own experience and the sudden
jump that the tests have gotten easier.
-Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Kenneth Sacca
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:41 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com; markl11@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
Jeez this topic is boring and so out of touch with
reality. I bet most of the complainers here are
former MCSE, CNE, ASE, A+ and all of those other
certification holders.
Your career isn't based on a certification. You
will never have a little fraternity of 5000 CCIEs
worldwide, where no one else can join the club.
Do you think lawyers or doctors write about this
crap all the time when a new class of people pass
the bar and medical board exams? Do CPAs complain
that the passing rate was 60% for their exam? Do
CEOs complain about each class that graduates from
Harvard Business school?
What you do on the job matters. If you are good,
then the money will come. If you suck, no matter
what your cert, you will be paid what you are worth.
Excel individually as a person, and stop worrying
about this crap.
Regards
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> From: "Mark Lewis" <markl11@hotmail.com>
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:07:40
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>
> IF this is true, I'll be really p****d off with Cisco - all that hard
work,
> and now the cert is going down the toilet.
>
> Mark
> CCIE#6280
>
> >From: "Yurchenko, Michael" <michael.yurchenko@verizon.com>
> >Reply-To: "Yurchenko, Michael" <michael.yurchenko@verizon.com>
> >To: "'Jason T. Rohm'" <jtrohm@athenet.net>, "CCIELIST (E-mail)"
> ><ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
> >Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:27:33 -0500
> >
> >Well, recently I have seen a post that all 5 individuals who attempted
the
> >test passed it successfully, and it looks like the rate at which the new
> >CCIEs are being produced - close to 200 a month - would lead me to
believe
> >that we could possibly hit 10000 by the end of the year.
> >
> >Michael Yurchenko
> >CCIE# 6695, CCDP, CCNP ATM Specialist, MCSE
> >Customer Support Engineer - 2
> >michael.yurchenko@verizon.com
> >610-407-2154
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jason T. Rohm [mailto:jtrohm@athenet.net]
> >Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:16 AM
> >To: CCIELIST (E-mail)
> >Subject: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
> >
> >
> >I just got my CCIE a few days ago and was disapointed at how easy the
test
> >was (by comparision to my other attempts).
> >
> >The raw number of new CCIE in the last few weeks seems to confirm that
the
> >new tests are infact easier than the old ones.
> >
> >While I am quite happy to have passed, I am also quite concerned that the
> >number of CCIEs is going to double this year with the newly watered down
> >tests and bigger labs.
> >
> >Does anyone else have a comment on this?
> >
> >Thank you,
> >
> > Jason T. Rohm
> > Sr. Network Engineer
> > jtrohm@athenet.net
> > (920) 983-0310
> > CCIE #6861
> >
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