From: Chris Mott (cmott@xxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Feb 12 2001 - 03:45:12 GMT-3
The BRS course at ARS, Alexandria VA was killer ... I had James Park for my
instructor, and the light bulbs just flashed all week as holes in my
knowledge were filled ... I highly recommend that one, and of course the ECP
course comes highly recommended, although there was a post earlier by
someone who was displeased with Mr. Caslow's teaching style (or something)
... how, dunno ... but a good course, three weeks before your exam date,
will take you to the edge (that and 16 hr days on a suitable rack!) ...
my 10 pfennig
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Kelley, Richard A. (AIT)
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:31 PM
To: 'Michael Le'; 'Brian Jones'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE Bootcamps.
Very good response. I agree that the Bootcamps are not made to prepare you
for the real world. But, they do give you a starting point. As the name
states "CCIE Bootcamp". It is that, a class to help prepare you for the CCIE
Lab. On-The-Job Training (OJT) is what prepares you for the real world.
Learn by doing.
Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Le [mailto:mmle@sprintparanet.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 6:25 AM
To: 'Brian Jones'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE Bootcamps.
I think this is what you can expect of other bootcamps too. It is afterall a
bootcamp and they're meant to squeeze in as much as they can in a small
amount of time. Being a CCIE bootcamp, it focuses on squeezing what you need
to know for the CCIE, which as we all know isn't always real world. I think
alot of what they teach *can* be relevant, but it depends on what you do.
Who's Real World are you talking about? Not everyone works with DLSW+. So if
you don't, it doesn't prepare you for your real world.
Personally, I don't think any 5 day course can prepare you for the real
world. But working the labs can give you a feel for how things work. And
then hopefully you can figure out the rest from there. I learn better from
doing labs than learning theory, so that format has helped me more.
Good luck.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Brian Jones
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:53 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: CCIE Bootcamps.
Hello all,
Having recently attended a "CCIE Bootcamp" course I feel ill prepared for
the real exam and quite dis-satisfied with the content/structure of the
course.
Rather than learning anything technical it was more a week working on a Lab
with "This is what you will get asked and this is how to answer" type
instruction. Is this what I could expect from all "Bootcamps" or did I
simply make a bad choice?
IMHO, The Bootcamp openly violated the NDA giving 'supposedly' accurate
details as to the labs scenario, how the proctors expect you to answer and
scenario variations. Sure I could now pass that Lab but by no means feel
prepared for the "Real World"
What are other Bootcamps like?
Regards,
Brian CCNP
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