From: austin.alao@xxxxxx
Date: Fri Jan 19 2001 - 07:16:40 GMT-3
Hello Pal,
While others may be mad atcha for airing your views, I personally sympathise
with it. You must be really intelligentially gifted to be able to become a
CCIE from zero within one calendar year.
Please accept my heartfelt congratulations and commiserations for the fact
that your uncommon and ingenious ability has placed you in a temporary
disadvantage. The CCIE is really great and pays best of ALL certifications;
you just need a little patience while you garner the necessary experience. I
wish I had your mental ability and your prayers as I chase what I believe to
be the ticket to earn my family and I, a passport to a decent life in this
decadent capitalist system.
Once again congrats; but mind your phraseology so you don't inadvertently
offend hard-working, decent people.
Regards,
Austin Alao,
01442 431 247 / 07740 148 175
"He Who Brings Sunshine to the Life of Others, Cannot Himself Live in
Darkness"
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hescock [mailto:bhescock@cisco.com]
Sent: 18 January 2001 13:58
To: dezhong
Cc: Cameron, John; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE, is it difficult? is it valuable?
Dezhong,
You might want to unsubscribe from this list if you think the CCIE is
so
easy and has no real value. All you're going to do is piss people off by
making comments like that.
Brian
dezhong wrote:
> Hi, John,
>
> You misunderstand me. I like cisco and still work hard for my group as
> before.
> I only want to say here is: CCIE, just another IT certification. We don't
> need to pay so much attention on it.
> I don't know why so many people think it is so difficult and so valuable?
>
> Dezhong Cai
> Cisco Systems, CCIE # 6621
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cameron, John" <johcamer@cisco.com>
> To: "Cai, Dezhong" <dcai@cisco.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:34 PM
> Subject: RE: CCIE, is it difficult? is it valuable?
>
> > I wonder why your working at cisco with this kind of attitude.
> >
> > This isn't going to do the company any good when you broadcast
> > e-mails out too a public mail alias. What are you tring to
> > state here?
> >
> > JC
> >
> > C i s c o S y s t e m s John Cameron
> > Network Engineer
> > Research Triangle Park
> > || || Cisco Systems, Inc.
> > || ||
> > |||| ||||
> > ..:||||||:..:||||||:..
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dezhong [mailto:dcai@cisco.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:59 PM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: CCIE, is it difficult? is it valuable?
> >
> >
> > Hi, all,
> >
> > I heard many stories about how difficult to get the CCIE and how
> > valuable it
> > is. So now I'm.
> >
> > I joined Cisco last June as a new graduate student without any cisco
> > background.
> > I passed the CCIE in last Dec. My salary is still as low as 68,000. My
> > grade is still as low as 6. And it seem there is no big promotion in the
> > near future. No promotion to grade 8.
> >
> > I don't feel it is difficult to pass the CCIE. I also doubt the value of
> > the
> > CCIE. In my opinion, even you have CCIE, it still depend on whether you
> > have
> > good experience. Like me, without any work experience except in cisco
> > for
> > several months. Can you see I'm a valuable CCIE?
> >
> >
> > Dezhong Cai
> > Cisco Systems, CCIE # 6621
> >
> >
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