From: andrew.2.shore@xxxxxx
Date: Fri Jan 19 2001 - 08:30:10 GMT-3
Perhaps if you worked in the real world you may find out how EASY Cisco is,
and if you're as good as you think you are, you may even earn some real
money
I work in the UK and currently make over 100k and that's UK pounds not
dollars and I haven't even sat the lab yet. The CCIE is a benchmark used by
companies to rate employees ability, some companies (the one in Redmond)
make their products attractive by giving away certification rendering them a
waste of paper, at least Cisco make people sweat for their accreditation.
A CCIE is nothing with out the real world experience to carry you through
projects, treating CCIE as an academic exercise probably is easy but it
doesn't mean you can do the job.
Just as a matter of interest you neglected to say how many attempts it took.
Andrew Shore
BTcd
Information Systems Engineering
Internet & Multimedia
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hescock [mailto:bhescock@cisco.com]
Sent: 18 January 2001 21:58
To: dezhong
Cc: Cameron, John; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE, is it difficult? is it valuable?
Dezhong,
You might want to unsubscribe from this list if you think the CCIE is
so
easy and has no real value. All you're going to do is piss people off by
making comments like that.
Brian
dezhong wrote:
> Hi, John,
>
> You misunderstand me. I like cisco and still work hard for my group as
> before.
> I only want to say here is: CCIE, just another IT certification. We don't
> need to pay so much attention on it.
> I don't know why so many people think it is so difficult and so valuable?
>
> Dezhong Cai
> Cisco Systems, CCIE # 6621
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cameron, John" <johcamer@cisco.com>
> To: "Cai, Dezhong" <dcai@cisco.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:34 PM
> Subject: RE: CCIE, is it difficult? is it valuable?
>
> > I wonder why your working at cisco with this kind of attitude.
> >
> > This isn't going to do the company any good when you broadcast
> > e-mails out too a public mail alias. What are you tring to
> > state here?
> >
> > JC
> >
> > C i s c o S y s t e m s John Cameron
> > Network Engineer
> > Research Triangle Park
> > || || Cisco Systems, Inc.
> > || ||
> > |||| ||||
> > ..:||||||:..:||||||:..
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dezhong [mailto:dcai@cisco.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:59 PM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: CCIE, is it difficult? is it valuable?
> >
> >
> > Hi, all,
> >
> > I heard many stories about how difficult to get the CCIE and how
> > valuable it
> > is. So now I'm.
> >
> > I joined Cisco last June as a new graduate student without any cisco
> > background.
> > I passed the CCIE in last Dec. My salary is still as low as 68,000. My
> > grade is still as low as 6. And it seem there is no big promotion in the
> > near future. No promotion to grade 8.
> >
> > I don't feel it is difficult to pass the CCIE. I also doubt the value of
> > the
> > CCIE. In my opinion, even you have CCIE, it still depend on whether you
> > have
> > good experience. Like me, without any work experience except in cisco
> > for
> > several months. Can you see I'm a valuable CCIE?
> >
> >
> > Dezhong Cai
> > Cisco Systems, CCIE # 6621
> >
> >
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