From: dezhong (dcai@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Jan 18 2001 - 18:46:29 GMT-3
Hi, Joy,
Thank you very much for your thought.
Actually I haven't any other thinking. I only think just CCIE is not enough,
you still need experience.
Dezhong Cai
Cisco Systems, CCIE # 6621
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jennifer Joy" <jjoy@tri.sbc.com>
To: <dcai@cisco.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE, is it difficult? is it valuable?
>
>
> I don't think this list is really the place for this discussion. If
> you are having issues with this, talk to your manager, or put yourself
> on the market. Even asking this question seems much like a "troll"
> or an act of immaturity.
>
> Go forth, achieve what you can. Move into research if you book-learn
> so well. Find something which complements your skills. Find someone
> to help you with your career, to help identify those areas you are
> weak in that might make an employer not see the value you might see
> in yourself. Mentors are for everyone.
>
> Achieving the CCIE takes different people different amounts of time.
> Not everyone has a good memory, not everyone has hands on, not everyone
> tests well.
>
> It's value is in what you make of it, and as far as monetary value,
> it's what the market will pay. Experience is very helpful in some
> jobs (like SEs) but degrees often matter more in research. The only
> rule is that there are no rules.
>
> For me, just pursing the CCIE has caused me to learn more in areas
> I didn't know. The journey has been fulfilling, and I've had to put
> a lot of time into it.
>
> Success is more than degrees and certs, it's more than experience,
> it's attitude, social skills, and sometimes luck to be in the right
> place at the right time.
>
> For me, success is learning new stuff, working with smart people, and
> doing cool things, not my paycheck (but a decent one helps :-).
>
> Set goals, follow them, and don't worry about the rest. Help others.
> I dunno, there is more to life than I got an X, how much money can
> I make, at least for me. For you, maybe you should be at a startup.
>
> Jennifer
> (procrasting in the final days)
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