From: Alan Basinger (abasinge@xxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Jan 18 2001 - 18:40:18 GMT-3
Well said....ditto
But if he lives in San Jose he's a broke CCIE.
Alan Basinger
Systems Engineer
SBC DataComm
Houston Texas
abasinge@swbell.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Jennifer Joy
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:28 PM
To: dcai@cisco.com
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE, is it difficult? is it valuable?
I don't think this list is really the place for this discussion. If
you are having issues with this, talk to your manager, or put yourself
on the market. Even asking this question seems much like a "troll"
or an act of immaturity.
Go forth, achieve what you can. Move into research if you book-learn
so well. Find something which complements your skills. Find someone
to help you with your career, to help identify those areas you are
weak in that might make an employer not see the value you might see
in yourself. Mentors are for everyone.
Achieving the CCIE takes different people different amounts of time.
Not everyone has a good memory, not everyone has hands on, not everyone
tests well.
It's value is in what you make of it, and as far as monetary value,
it's what the market will pay. Experience is very helpful in some
jobs (like SEs) but degrees often matter more in research. The only
rule is that there are no rules.
For me, just pursing the CCIE has caused me to learn more in areas
I didn't know. The journey has been fulfilling, and I've had to put
a lot of time into it.
Success is more than degrees and certs, it's more than experience,
it's attitude, social skills, and sometimes luck to be in the right
place at the right time.
For me, success is learning new stuff, working with smart people, and
doing cool things, not my paycheck (but a decent one helps :-).
Set goals, follow them, and don't worry about the rest. Help others.
I dunno, there is more to life than I got an X, how much money can
I make, at least for me. For you, maybe you should be at a startup.
Jennifer
(procrasting in the final days)
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