From: Matt Harrison (m.harrison@xxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Jan 15 2001 - 21:20:43 GMT-3
Hi, let me introduce myself, Matt Harrison, am new to the list and planning
another attempt in March, was going to be February, but Cisco screwed up and
I had to reschedule fortunately I have been able to swap back up to March.
Anyway I think everyone is getting to wrapped up in semantics and real life.
This is a LAB not real life, real life says "yes you would need to encrypt
it", but unless the LAB specifically says to encrypt don't sweat it, if you
do encrypt it, and they were not looking for you to encrypt it, you may not
get the points for it even if it works...Granted encryption may possibly be
there and knowing it or knowing where to get the info you may require would
be a good idea.
Remember everything is fair game when it comes to lab. As they remove the
legacy items like x25 and DECNET special services and features are more
likely to show up on the lab i.e encryption
As stated in previous responses if you are not sure what they are asking for
"Ask the proctor" for some clearer direction.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Basinger" <abasinge@swbell.net>
To: "Chuck Church" <cchurch@MAGNACOM.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 3:12 PM
Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip
> Chuck,
> I have always thought the same but, I will tell you that this may not be
> what you expect in the lab. Do not expect that because it says VPN it
means
> encryption or IPSec. I would ask the proctor a question like "I know this
> says VPN and I have always looked at VPN's as using IPSec but this looks
> more like it could be a tunnel?" "Which one do you want it is not clear in
> the wording?" the proctors appreciate intelligent questions and will help
if
> the question is worded correctly. In my first attempt in SJ on Dec 16th
the
> 2 proctors in the lab were very helpful to me as long as I asked
intelligent
> questions and did not ask for the answer but more direction on what was
> asked. I can say they were very helpful in clearing up the wording on a
few
> of the questions that posed a problem.
>
> Alan Basinger
> Systems Engineer
> SBC DataComm
> Houston Texas
> abasinge@swbell.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Chuck Church
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 1:41 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip
>
>
> But if they use the term 'VPN', to me that implies using encryption,
whether
> IPSec or CET. Is that everyone else's take on the term?
>
> Chuck Church
> CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Magnacom Technologies
> 140 N. Rt. 303
> Valley Cottage, NY 10989
> 845-267-4000 x218
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert DeVito [mailto:robertdevito@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:09 PM
> To: ashort@wingedwheel.net; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip
>
>
> Only if it specifies to use encryption, though.
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Andrew Short <ashort@wingedwheel.net>
> Reply-To: Andrew Short <ashort@wingedwheel.net>
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip
> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:17:10 -0600 (CST)
>
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Tom Gonter wrote:
>
> > Here's a reason. You're running addresses in the 10.0.0.0 space and a
> > partner company is using addresses in the 10.0.0.0 space or other
private
> > space (192.168.0.0,etc...). Private networks aren't routable in the
> > Internet. However, you can tunnel ip across the Internet to get to
those
> > distant private networks.
>
> Yeah, but I'd use IPSec tunnel mode for that.
>
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > Chuck Church
> > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 6:52 AM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip
> >
> >
> > But if it's IP only, do you need to use a tunnel? All the times I've
> setup
> > VPN between router to router or PIX to PIX, we've never used a tunnel.
> > Obviously if they want non-IP traffic, use a tunnel, but if it's IP
only,
> > why use one? What's the way the lab proctor is going to want to see
it?
> >
> > Chuck Church
> > CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
> > Sr. Network Engineer
> > Magnacom Technologies
> > 140 N. Rt. 303
> > Valley Cottage, NY 10989
> > 845-267-4000 x218
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Mahoney [mailto:kmahoney1@cfl.rr.com]
> > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 1:31 AM
> > To: Robert DeVito; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip
> >
> >
> > yep
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > Robert DeVito
> > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 6:13 AM
> > To: kmahoney1@cfl.rr.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip
> >
> >
> > So if I come over a scenario that requires to set up a VPN from router
A
> to
> > router B for IP only, use "tunnel mode ipip" instead of the default
> "tunnel
> > mode gre"?
> >
> > Thanks in advanced,
> > Robert
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "Kevin Mahoney" <kmahoney1@cfl.rr.com>
> > Reply-To: <kmahoney1@cfl.rr.com>
> > To: "Robert DeVito" <robertdevito@hotmail.com>,
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip
> > Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 00:50:10 -0500
> >
> > Tunnel mode ipip is foe setting up VPNs where you want to tunnel ip
> traffic
> > over an ip tunnel.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > Robert DeVito
> > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 4:46 AM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: tunnel mode ipip
> >
> >
> > Can someone explain tunnel mode ipip? I can not find anything on the CD
> or
> > CCO... Thank you!
> >
> > Robert
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