RE: tunnel mode ipip

From: Alan Basinger (abasinge@xxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Jan 15 2001 - 17:12:50 GMT-3


   
Chuck,
I have always thought the same but, I will tell you that this may not be
what you expect in the lab. Do not expect that because it says VPN it means
encryption or IPSec. I would ask the proctor a question like "I know this
says VPN and I have always looked at VPN's as using IPSec but this looks
more like it could be a tunnel?" "Which one do you want it is not clear in
the wording?" the proctors appreciate intelligent questions and will help if
the question is worded correctly. In my first attempt in SJ on Dec 16th the
2 proctors in the lab were very helpful to me as long as I asked intelligent
questions and did not ask for the answer but more direction on what was
asked. I can say they were very helpful in clearing up the wording on a few
of the questions that posed a problem.

Alan Basinger
Systems Engineer
SBC DataComm
Houston Texas
abasinge@swbell.net

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Chuck Church
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 1:41 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip

But if they use the term 'VPN', to me that implies using encryption, whether
IPSec or CET. Is that everyone else's take on the term?

Chuck Church
CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
Sr. Network Engineer
Magnacom Technologies
140 N. Rt. 303
Valley Cottage, NY 10989
845-267-4000 x218

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert DeVito [mailto:robertdevito@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:09 PM
To: ashort@wingedwheel.net; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip

Only if it specifies to use encryption, though.

----Original Message Follows----
From: Andrew Short <ashort@wingedwheel.net>
Reply-To: Andrew Short <ashort@wingedwheel.net>
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:17:10 -0600 (CST)

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Tom Gonter wrote:

> Here's a reason. You're running addresses in the 10.0.0.0 space and a
> partner company is using addresses in the 10.0.0.0 space or other private
> space (192.168.0.0,etc...). Private networks aren't routable in the
> Internet. However, you can tunnel ip across the Internet to get to those
> distant private networks.

Yeah, but I'd use IPSec tunnel mode for that.

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Chuck Church
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 6:52 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip
>
>
> But if it's IP only, do you need to use a tunnel? All the times I've
setup
> VPN between router to router or PIX to PIX, we've never used a tunnel.
> Obviously if they want non-IP traffic, use a tunnel, but if it's IP only,
> why use one? What's the way the lab proctor is going to want to see it?
>
> Chuck Church
> CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Magnacom Technologies
> 140 N. Rt. 303
> Valley Cottage, NY 10989
> 845-267-4000 x218
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Mahoney [mailto:kmahoney1@cfl.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 1:31 AM
> To: Robert DeVito; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip
>
>
> yep
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Robert DeVito
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 6:13 AM
> To: kmahoney1@cfl.rr.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip
>
>
> So if I come over a scenario that requires to set up a VPN from router A
to
> router B for IP only, use "tunnel mode ipip" instead of the default
"tunnel
> mode gre"?
>
> Thanks in advanced,
> Robert
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Kevin Mahoney" <kmahoney1@cfl.rr.com>
> Reply-To: <kmahoney1@cfl.rr.com>
> To: "Robert DeVito" <robertdevito@hotmail.com>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Subject: RE: tunnel mode ipip
> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 00:50:10 -0500
>
> Tunnel mode ipip is foe setting up VPNs where you want to tunnel ip
traffic
> over an ip tunnel.
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Robert DeVito
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 4:46 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: tunnel mode ipip
>
>
> Can someone explain tunnel mode ipip? I can not find anything on the CD
or
> CCO... Thank you!
>
> Robert



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