From: Virnoche, Phil (phil.virnoche@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Jan 10 2001 - 17:11:17 GMT-3
".................This involved the use of notepad to preconfigure all my
command aliases and to setup my general paste material for each router (no
ip domain, ip subnet-zero etc). I had likely 20 aliases that I used for key
shortcuts. I also had a very refined methodology for installing and
checking the configurations. ............"
Care to share your command aliases/ methodologies?
Philip G. Virnoche
Network Engineer - AT&T Wireless
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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Van Oene [mailto:pvo@usermail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 11:58 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Second Attempts
For what its worth, I timed myself on diagramming, addressing and fresh
start configuring 6 routers with most layer two technologies and worked
toward getting things done in 30-60 minutes. I could do the pure config
about as fast as humanly possible :) The end result generally included
multi area OSPF over partial mesh frame.
This involved the use of notepad to preconfigure all my command aliases and
to setup my general paste material for each router (no ip domain, ip
subnet-zero etc). I had likely 20 aliases that I used for key shortcuts. I
also had a very refined methodology for installing and checking the
configurations. You really need to almost configure them in parallel (ie
one aspect at a time, move to the next right when you trigger a save on the
last)
In the lab, this really helped as it bought me a lot of time when I needed
it to figure out the weird stuff. I passed on the first go mostly because I
had the time I needed to fix the (HUGE) mistakes I made :)
Pete
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On 1/10/2001 at 1:59 PM jeffkesemeyer wrote:
>You make an interesting point on attempts.
>
>I am getting ready to make my first attempt and I really an not sure as
what
>to expect on the difficulty of the lab. I am practicing and reading and
>hopefully I will make it to the second day. My only thoughts can be that
the
>first time will have to be a practice run so I can learn what I am weak at.
>Seems everyone makes second attempts so the level required must be more
than
>anyone can estimate.
>
>I would be interested in here about the personal weak spots others had on
>their first attempt.
>Giving others a way to test their abilities before the lab. Someone once
>mentioned that they could configure six routers in 20 minutes with 3-IGP's,
>FR, and ISDN. They passed the lab so that is a goal that I must be able to
>do as well. This does not guarantee I will pass, but I will certainly limit
>myself if I can't do it.
>
>I think if everyone knew the difficulty in the beginning that there would
be
>more passing on the first attempts and less of a lab back log. I been
>wanting to take the test since the beginning but my only books on Cisco
were
>the 9.12 IOS manuals, now there are only three Cisco Press books that I
>don't have.
>
> Jeff Kesemeyer
> CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNE
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
>Michelle T
>Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 1:23 PM
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Second Attempts
>
>
>If anyone is feeling so inclined to, I would be interested in hearing about
>second attempts. I am about to take mine and have been wondering a lot
about
>what it will be like. I took my first attempt in March of last year, so it
>seems like it has been a long time. I remember being really surprised at
how
>un-prepared I was. I thought I knew routing and switching very well and had
>a chance at passing the first time. Well, I was surprised to find that
>routing and switching really were not my biggest problems, though I did not
>know them as well as I thought I did. There is a big difference between
>knowing how to get a protocol up and working and understanding the inner
>workings of that protocol and the gotchas and rules. Most importantly, I
>discovered that you will never get to the layer 3 stuff you feel
comfortable
>with if you can't get Layer 1 and 2 working flawlessly. I did ok on L1, but
>layer 2 issues caught me very much by surprise. I felt I encountered just
>about every frame format that exists in that lab on that day. And as I
>frantically searched the CD and watched the time tick away at a surreal
>speed, I realized I had a long way to go.
>
>That night, knowing I would not make it the next day, I seriously
>contemplated giving up. I think I knew deep down just how much time this
was
>going to take and had myself nearly talked out of it. Lucky for me I have
an
>understanding and encouraging spouse who gently kicked me in the butt and
>got me going again.
>
>I just looked back at a lab I had practiced on a lot before that first
>attempt. It's from the U of M practice lab and I remember spending an
entire
>weekend on it. I think I could do it now in a couple of hours. But at the
>time, I thought I was doing pretty well. Now I realize that it is so
>important to know things right off the top of your head so you can have
some
>time for the things that don't quite make sense or for which there isn't an
>obvious answer jumping out at you. Anyway, regardless of the outcome, I
just
>believe this will be a completely different experience and know that if I
>pass, I will have earned it and if I don't pass, I don't have nearly as far
>to go as I once did.
>
>Thanks for your thoughts in advance!
>
>Michelle Truman
>
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