From: Raymond Cheung (rcheung@xxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Jan 02 2001 - 14:33:17 GMT-3
Totally agree with you. I was short by 3-5 points on my first attempt, then
Cisco discouraged me by telling my next attempt will be in May. I've been
thinking to drop it completely but hell I can't let it go, so it's like a
nightmare haunting me every night. And it's 5 months.
Another rumor I heard, even you are in the waiting list, you may not be
lucky to get earlier dates because Cisco will schedule people from premium
partners or with training contract first. So this is like a priority
queueing instead of fq. Also if you are cisco employees, you are in the
priority queues too.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Graham.Fagan@psir.ie
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:55 AM
To: achew@unmail.org; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Backlog for CCIE Lab (RTP at least)
Totally in agreement with you on this one. I failed by 2% on my first
attempt and have had to wait 5 months to get back for another chance. This
means trying to maintain the momentum, which is not an easy task.
-----Original Message-----
From: achew@unmail.org [mailto:achew@unmail.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 4:46 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Backlog for CCIE Lab (RTP at least)
A gripe from personal experience - anyone attempting the lab who is
_prepared_ should be able to make day 2... passing is another thing since
day 2 morning is time compressed and points lost on day 1 don't help. From
what I'm told, 40% make it to day 2. That means 60% of the candidates are
wasting everyone else's time (ok ok, that's questionable to some of you, but
with _work_, I am absolutely _certain_ 1st timers can get to day 2 easily).
The option would be to form multiple queues - one for 1st timers, one for
retakes who got to day 2 (1 month minimum wait period), one for retakes who
failed to get to day 2 (3 month minimum wait period - force them to study
rather than coming back so soon). And the priority would be in the order of
retakes of those who got to day 2, then 1st timers, then retakes who failed
to get to day 2. This would discourage anyone who isn't sufficiently
prepared to attempt the lab.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@mentortech.com>
To: "'Price, Jamie'" <JPrice@isgteam.com>; "'Don Rogers'"
<drogers@icscorp.com>; "'tv'" <tvarriale@telocity.com>; "'Jonathan Hays'"
<jhays@acropolis.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: Backlog for CCIE Lab (RTP at least)
> I certainly agree with you Jamie... The CCNP is a "career PATH" towards
> CCIE, not a prerequisite, nor a real indication of readiness... if you
were
> to REQUIRE that people take each and every one of the Cisco
instructor-lead
> courses, then you may be on a closer track, but even then, there's a lot
of
> difference.
>
> If you want to reduce the backlog, put something in place like
verification
> of employment with REAL networks for "x" number of years, or something
like
> that... Though I assume that would meet with the same reaction as
requiring
> a CCNP. :)
>
> View the backlog as a good thing, or a bad thing...
>
> 1. it means more people are interested in the certification, so one day,
> you may not be 6 months behind! (grin)
> 2. it means that more people have more money than they do common sense
and
> are taking the exam anyway...
>
> *shrug* I don't think the backlog is all the big of a deal, it's one of
> those things in life! Maybe it's all part of Cisco's psychology strategy!
> Ya know. The time pressure and complexity is one thing, measuring how a
> candidate deals with pressure. Perhaps the backlog in signing up for the
> test is merely a way of exerting psychological pressure on the patience of
> candidates! All in all, I don't believe any CCIE's are responsible for
> "going postal" (apologies to any postal workers in the group!).. So......
> Perhaps this delay is a good thing!
>
> All in all, relax, breathe deeply, and don't sweat it!
>
> Scott
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