From: Kevin Baumgartner (kbaumgar@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Jan 02 2001 - 14:46:08 GMT-3
Actually Cisco employees are not in the priority queues. There are a very
limited number of spaces for Cisco employees and they also are in the same
queue as everyone else. I last took the exam in the October and will not
be taking again until end of Febuary.
Most everyone has the same problem getting into the lab.
Kevin
At 11:33 AM 1/2/01 -0600, Raymond Cheung wrote:
>Totally agree with you. I was short by 3-5 points on my first attempt, then
>Cisco discouraged me by telling my next attempt will be in May. I've been
>thinking to drop it completely but hell I can't let it go, so it's like a
>nightmare haunting me every night. And it's 5 months.
>Another rumor I heard, even you are in the waiting list, you may not be
>lucky to get earlier dates because Cisco will schedule people from premium
>partners or with training contract first. So this is like a priority
>queueing instead of fq. Also if you are cisco employees, you are in the
>priority queues too.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
>Graham.Fagan@psir.ie
>Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:55 AM
>To: achew@unmail.org; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: Backlog for CCIE Lab (RTP at least)
>
>
>Totally in agreement with you on this one. I failed by 2% on my first
>attempt and have had to wait 5 months to get back for another chance. This
>means trying to maintain the momentum, which is not an easy task.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: achew@unmail.org [mailto:achew@unmail.org]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 4:46 PM
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Re: Backlog for CCIE Lab (RTP at least)
>
>
>A gripe from personal experience - anyone attempting the lab who is
>_prepared_ should be able to make day 2... passing is another thing since
>day 2 morning is time compressed and points lost on day 1 don't help. From
>what I'm told, 40% make it to day 2. That means 60% of the candidates are
>wasting everyone else's time (ok ok, that's questionable to some of you, but
>with _work_, I am absolutely _certain_ 1st timers can get to day 2 easily).
>
>The option would be to form multiple queues - one for 1st timers, one for
>retakes who got to day 2 (1 month minimum wait period), one for retakes who
>failed to get to day 2 (3 month minimum wait period - force them to study
>rather than coming back so soon). And the priority would be in the order of
>retakes of those who got to day 2, then 1st timers, then retakes who failed
>to get to day 2. This would discourage anyone who isn't sufficiently
>prepared to attempt the lab.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@mentortech.com>
>To: "'Price, Jamie'" <JPrice@isgteam.com>; "'Don Rogers'"
><drogers@icscorp.com>; "'tv'" <tvarriale@telocity.com>; "'Jonathan Hays'"
><jhays@acropolis.com>
>Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:14 AM
>Subject: RE: Backlog for CCIE Lab (RTP at least)
>
>
> > I certainly agree with you Jamie... The CCNP is a "career PATH" towards
> > CCIE, not a prerequisite, nor a real indication of readiness... if you
>were
> > to REQUIRE that people take each and every one of the Cisco
>instructor-lead
> > courses, then you may be on a closer track, but even then, there's a lot
>of
> > difference.
> >
> > If you want to reduce the backlog, put something in place like
>verification
> > of employment with REAL networks for "x" number of years, or something
>like
> > that... Though I assume that would meet with the same reaction as
>requiring
> > a CCNP. :)
> >
> > View the backlog as a good thing, or a bad thing...
> >
> > 1. it means more people are interested in the certification, so one day,
> > you may not be 6 months behind! (grin)
> > 2. it means that more people have more money than they do common sense
>and
> > are taking the exam anyway...
> >
> > *shrug* I don't think the backlog is all the big of a deal, it's one of
> > those things in life! Maybe it's all part of Cisco's psychology strategy!
> > Ya know. The time pressure and complexity is one thing, measuring how a
> > candidate deals with pressure. Perhaps the backlog in signing up for the
> > test is merely a way of exerting psychological pressure on the patience of
> > candidates! All in all, I don't believe any CCIE's are responsible for
> > "going postal" (apologies to any postal workers in the group!).. So......
> > Perhaps this delay is a good thing!
> >
> > All in all, relax, breathe deeply, and don't sweat it!
> >
> > Scott
>
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