Re: Summary of my Lab Experience

From: Claude-Vincent (claude_vincent@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Dec 25 2000 - 21:55:06 GMT-3


   
Not a barrier but the proctor I got doesn't speak english so he cannot help
you for anything even if he is very kind. Of course, anyone can sit the lab
in Tokyo.

Vincent

----- Original Message -----
From: "S.K. Chan" <chn345@netvigator.com>
To: "Claude-Vincent" <claude_vincent@yahoo.com>; "Andrew Lennon"
<andrew.lennon@nscglobal.com>; "Ronnie Royston" <RonnieR@globaldatasys.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: Summary of my Lab Experience

> Vincent
> A question is langauage a barrier in Tokyo lab? Isn't true that knwoing
> English only(no japanese)is good enough to
> sit for the lab ?
> Many Thanks
> KS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Claude-Vincent <claude_vincent@yahoo.com>
> To: Andrew Lennon <andrew.lennon@nscglobal.com>; Ronnie Royston
> <RonnieR@globaldatasys.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 3:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Summary of my Lab Experience
>
>
> > I have got similar experience as Ronnie Royston except the fact that I
> could
> > troubleshoot my config. within 30min.!!!!
> > Some silly mistakes, really stupid ones!!!! I suppose I can call it now
> > experience, isn't it? That was my first attempt in Tokyo last 14-15 Dec.
> >
> > READ CAREFULLY THE QUESTIONS!! Your brain makes the difficulty. Sure.
> >
> > In my scenario, I found 2 errors!!!! I just got "Gomenasai" from the
> > proctor. He doesn't speak english. As I am neither native english
speaker
> > nor japanese, you can imagine the mess!
> > But the rack and computers are in a very good condition like new.
> > Everything's clean like Tokyo. I love it.
> >
> >
> > Claude-Vincent Perez
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrew Lennon" <andrew.lennon@nscglobal.com>
> > To: "Ronnie Royston" <RonnieR@globaldatasys.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 7:43 AM
> > Subject: RE: Summary of my Lab Experience
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > As someone who has been to both RTP and Brussels in the last six
months,
> I
> > > found this rather interesting. . I think you may find this
interesting
> > and
> > > maybe a little shocking...
> > >
> > > At Brussels, they have two labs, Asterix and Obelix. Each seats 6
> people.
> > > Upon arriving, its grab a coffee time and sit and wait. The two
proctors
> > > came in to the cafeteria at about 8.55 and shouted some names out and
6
> > went
> > > to one lab, and six went to the other. Upon entering . Asterix, I was
> > > surprised by the lack of equipment. Having been to RTP, I was
expecting
> to
> > > be faced with half a dozen racks. The racks are all behind a closed
> door.
> > > Then I realised that I wouldn't be actually patching cables....
> > >
> > > Anyway. We started at 9, had 1/2hr lunch at 12.30 and started again at
> 1pm
> > > (all the passmarks/stats etc. are on a whiteboard for you - opposite
of
> > > rtp!). Lunch was OK, it was allpaid for but there was a slight
problem.
> > > When people were talking, I realised that there were only two
scenarios
> > > being done. One in Asterix, and one in Obelix. I really felt for the
> guys
> > > who didnt have my lab as it was the one that I had had in RTP, and I
> know
> > > how hard it was!
> > >
> > >
> > > The real kicker was at 16.30. Hands down and leave! and wait. We were
> > marked
> > > that evening.
> > > I eventually went in at nearly 8pm. I made day 2 but I knew I didnt
have
> > > enough to get to t/s. My final thought was "how much different it
was".
> > The
> > > labs were the same, but the approach was a world away.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > > Ronnie Royston
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 18:04
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Summary of my Lab Experience
> > >
> > >
> > > For those of you who haven't been yet, here's what I saw. (I didn't
> pass,
> > > ...this time - neither did anybody else)
> > >
> > > I went to RTP. Cisco has a campus of about 5 buildings, all facing a
> big
> > > open parking/park area. When I arrived to the right building, the
door
> > was
> > > locked just like every other door at Cisco and it was about 20
degrees,
> > > ...damn! Anyway, there were three guys sitting in the reception area.
> A
> > >
> > > Didn't see any day 2 guys on both attempts, and I got to RTP at 8am!
> > >
> > > guy came in about 8:15 and grabbed those guys ( who were there for day
> 2).
> > > By 8:30 all of us day 1 guys were there. We were brought to the lab
> room.
> > > It was a big corner room on the first floor full of cubicles that
stood
> > > about 3 feet high. Each cubicle had a rack of gear. The proctor gave
> us
> > a
> > > very brief tour of the rack and walked us to our respective stations
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The lab test was made up of many 2 point questions. You'll be given
> patch
> > > cables and have to wire up your rack appropriately. Under the
pressure
> of
> > > the CCIE lab clock, I was uneasy about getting all of my layer 1-2 up,
> > but,
> > > you'll figure it all out, I did in about 30 minutes, except for one
> thing,
> > > ...crap!
> > >
> > > I believe that it is safe to say that you can expect to be asked to do
> > > things that you haven't done before. I was. That wasn't that bad
> though,
> > > if you believe, and hit "?" enough along with the command reference to
> > > double check, you'll get those points. What will kill you is not
> knowing
> > > every layer 2 technology that Cisco supports well enough to configure
it
> > and
> > > tweak it, and routing. I recommend that no matter how much you're
> > missing,
> > > stop building at 4:00pm and start checking what you have built. You
> WILL
> > > find many simple mistakes that you will know how to fix. Do NOT build
> > until
> > > 5:00pm. Make yourself stop at 4:00, ping, telnet, show ip route, show
> > dlsw
> > > peers. I sat there on day two after being failed and fixed more than
> half
> > > of what I got wrong in one hour.
> > >
> > > Good luck everybody and Happy Holdiays.
> > >



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