From: Tony Olzak (aolzak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Dec 12 2000 - 17:04:18 GMT-3
Alright, but what if you are not allowed to run RTMP. You must know how to
get it to work with only EIGRP. "Appletalk local-routing" is the correct way
to resolve this issue.
Tony
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ronnie Royston" <RonnieR@globaldatasys.com>
To: "'Justin Menga'" <Justin.Menga@computerland.co.nz>; "'watsonf'"
<watsonf@gte.net>; "Steve Clubb" <sclubb@cattech.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: Appletalk Routing Issue
> How do you explain the fact that I got this resolved without using that
> command? I added 'no apple rtmp-split' to the hub's serial interface and
> the pinging began to work ( even though eigrp was specified and running
for
> apple on all routers). Try it.
>
> In my experience, both Apple and IPX rely on their native routing
protocols
> to operate. For example, SAP won't work if you issue 'no ipx router rip'.
> It looks like, even when you run EIGRP, you should be aware that the
native
> protocols are still running in the background. If you run into problems
> with Apple IPX, and you've done all you believe necessary to EIGRP, look
at
> the native protocol.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Menga [mailto:Justin.Menga@computerland.co.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 3:22 AM
> To: 'watsonf'; Steve Clubb; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Appletalk Routing Issue
>
>
> Apple local routing has nothing to do with EIGRP/RTMP. It does not affect
> routing updates at all.
>
> Apple local-routing IS the solution to this problem. IP and IPX 'locally'
> route by default. Appletalk does not. All that is happening is that R3
> sends an apple packet destined for R2 to R5 (as this is the hub router).
> When R5 processes this packet, it will reroute that packet out the PVC to
R2
> ONLY if appletalk local-routing is enabled (or of course if R2 was on a
> different cable range) and it has a frame map to R2. THe same applies
vice
> versa.
>
> When R3 sends routing updates, they are broadcast to R5. R5 processes
> these, then will re-broadcast these out to R2, as long as split-horizon is
> DISABLED. Thus R2 learns about R3 routes and vice versa. R5 is not
> rerouting the packets locally in this case - it is accepting route updates
> and then genrating new updates to the other spoke based on these.
>
> :) Justin
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: watsonf [mailto:watsonf@gte.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:29 PM
> To: Steve Clubb; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Appletalk Routing Issue
>
>
> Steve,
>
> This looks like a Frame Relay map issue at your spoke routers (r3 & r2).
If
> it were an "apple local routing" issue, you wouldn't see r3's routes at
r2.
> Caslow's book is an excellent reference for this.
>
> Resolution is static frame map statements at each spoke. r3 needs a map to
> r5 AND r2, and vice versa.
>
> Fred Watson
> CCIE #6561
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Clubb" <sclubb@cattech.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 2:20 PM
> Subject: Appletalk Routing Issue
>
>
> > I have an Appletalk Routing Issue that I haven't been able to resolve.
> >
> > Here's the layout:
> >
> > r5
> > / \
> > r3 r2
> >
> > R2, R3 and R5 are on the same frame ip subnet.
> >
> > All of IP is working. Apple eigrp-splithorizon is disabled on R5's
> > subinterface to R2 & R3.
> >
> > R3 is getting all of R5 routes and R2 routes as shown in its routing
> table.
> > R2 is getting all of R5 routes and R3 routes as shown in its routing
table
> > (below)
> > R5 is getting all of R2 and R3's routes.
> >
> > R5 can ping all of R2 and R3.
> >
> > R2 can ping all of R5 but NOT R3
> > R3 can ping all of R5 but NOT R2
> >
> > I've added frame map statements in all combonations without any success
> (but
> > have taken them off as shown below)
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Config below
> >
> > ***********
> >
> > r5#
> > appletalk routing eigrp 5
> > appletalk route-redistribution
> > !
> > interface Serial0.23 multipoint
> > ip address 137.20.23.5 255.255.255.224
> > ip ospf network point-to-multipoint
> > appletalk cable-range 5023-5023 5023.5
> > appletalk zone frame
> > appletalk protocol eigrp
> > no appletalk protocol rtmp
> > no appletalk eigrp-splithorizon
> > ipx network 5023
> > no ipx split-horizon eigrp 1
> > frame-relay de-group 1 102
> > frame-relay map ipx 5023.0010.7b81.a377 103 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ip 137.20.23.2 102 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ip 137.20.23.3 103 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ipx 5023.0010.7b81.a35b 102 broadcast
> >
> > r3#
> > appletalk routing eigrp 3
> > appletalk route-redistribution
> > !
> > interface Serial0
> > ip address 137.20.23.3 255.255.255.224
> > encapsulation frame-relay
> > ip ospf network point-to-multipoint
> > keepalive 15
> > appletalk cable-range 5023-5023 5023.3
> > appletalk zone frame
> > appletalk protocol eigrp
> > no appletalk protocol rtmp
> > ipx network 5023
> > no fair-queue
> > frame-relay map ipx 5023.00d0.58ad.ad32 203 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ip 137.20.23.2 203 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ip 137.20.23.5 203 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ipx 5023.0010.7b81.a35b 203 broadcast
> >
> > r2#
> > appletalk routing eigrp 2
> > appletalk route-redistribution
> > !
> > interface Serial0
> > ip address 137.20.23.2 255.255.255.224
> > encapsulation frame-relay
> > ip ospf network point-to-multipoint
> > keepalive 15
> > appletalk cable-range 5023-5023 5023.2
> > appletalk zone frame
> > appletalk protocol eigrp
> > no appletalk protocol rtmp
> > ipx network 5023
> > no fair-queue
> > frame-relay map ipx 5023.0010.7b81.a377 202 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ipx 5023.00d0.58ad.ad32 202 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ip 137.20.23.3 202 broadcast
> >
> > r2#sar
> > Codes: R - RTMP derived, E - EIGRP derived, C - connected, A - AURP
> > S - static P - proxy
> > 8 routes in internet
> >
> > The first zone listed for each entry is its default (primary) zone.
> >
> > C Net 200 directly connected, Ethernet0, zone r2ether
> > E Net 569-569 [1/G] via 5023.5, 2074 sec, Serial0, zone r5r6r10
> > E Net 900-900 [3/G] via 5023.5, 2074 sec, Serial0, zone r9ether
> > E Net 1009-1009 [2/G] via 5023.5, 2074 sec, Serial0, zone r9r10
> > E Net 2003-2003 [2/G] via 5023.5, 593 sec, Serial0, zone r2r3zone
> > E Net 3000-3000 [2/G] via 5023.5, 2033 sec, Serial0, zone r3ether
> > E Net 5006-5006 [1/G] via 5023.5, 2075 sec, Serial0, zone r5r6zone
> > C Net 5023-5023 directly connected, Serial0, zone framer5#
> > appletalk routing eigrp 5
> > appletalk route-redistribution
> > !
> > interface Serial0.23 multipoint
> > ip address 137.20.23.5 255.255.255.224
> > ip ospf network point-to-multipoint
> > appletalk cable-range 5023-5023 5023.5
> > appletalk zone frame
> > appletalk protocol eigrp
> > no appletalk protocol rtmp
> > no appletalk eigrp-splithorizon
> > ipx network 5023
> > no ipx split-horizon eigrp 1
> > frame-relay de-group 1 102
> > frame-relay map ipx 5023.0010.7b81.a377 103 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ip 137.20.23.2 102 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ip 137.20.23.3 103 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ipx 5023.0010.7b81.a35b 102 broadcast
> >
> > r3#
> > appletalk routing eigrp 3
> > appletalk route-redistribution
> > !
> > interface Serial0
> > ip address 137.20.23.3 255.255.255.224
> > encapsulation frame-relay
> > ip ospf network point-to-multipoint
> > keepalive 15
> > appletalk cable-range 5023-5023 5023.3
> > appletalk zone frame
> > appletalk protocol eigrp
> > no appletalk protocol rtmp
> > ipx network 5023
> > no fair-queue
> > frame-relay map ipx 5023.00d0.58ad.ad32 203 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ip 137.20.23.2 203 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ip 137.20.23.5 203 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ipx 5023.0010.7b81.a35b 203 broadcast
> >
> > r2#
> > appletalk routing eigrp 2
> > appletalk route-redistribution
> > !
> > interface Serial0
> > ip address 137.20.23.2 255.255.255.224
> > encapsulation frame-relay
> > ip ospf network point-to-multipoint
> > keepalive 15
> > appletalk cable-range 5023-5023 5023.2
> > appletalk zone frame
> > appletalk protocol eigrp
> > no appletalk protocol rtmp
> > ipx network 5023
> > no fair-queue
> > frame-relay map ipx 5023.0010.7b81.a377 202 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ipx 5023.00d0.58ad.ad32 202 broadcast
> > frame-relay map ip 137.20.23.3 202 broadcast
> >
> > r2#sar
> > Codes: R - RTMP derived, E - EIGRP derived, C - connected, A - AURP
> > S - static P - proxy
> > 8 routes in internet
> >
> > The first zone listed for each entry is its default (primary) zone.
> >
> > C Net 200 directly connected, Ethernet0, zone r2ether
> > E Net 569-569 [1/G] via 5023.5, 2074 sec, Serial0, zone r5r6r10
> > E Net 900-900 [3/G] via 5023.5, 2074 sec, Serial0, zone r9ether
> > E Net 1009-1009 [2/G] via 5023.5, 2074 sec, Serial0, zone r9r10
> > E Net 2003-2003 [2/G] via 5023.5, 593 sec, Serial0, zone r2r3zone
> > E Net 3000-3000 [2/G] via 5023.5, 2033 sec, Serial0, zone r3ether
> > E Net 5006-5006 [1/G] via 5023.5, 2075 sec, Serial0, zone r5r6zone
> > C Net 5023-5023 directly connected, Serial0, zone frame
> >
> >
> > ********************
> >
> > Steve
> >
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