From: mark salmon (masalmon@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Oct 04 2000 - 03:26:15 GMT-3
No sure where you see ATM dying but many new services being rolled out
(DSL) uses ATM as transport. In the core for many SPs I see ATM being
deployed.
"Chan, Echo" wrote:
>
> Cisco are selling not only 12000 Series Router when they meet Juniper. They
> sell a total solution. 12000 + 6509 (GigabitEthernet Switches). You know --
> ATM are dying.
>
> I do agree with Brian. Juniper's features are so limited since they have no
> ipx/appletalk/ibm. However, It is a fact that people are migrating to
> Juniper because of MPLS.
>
> Do you think Cisco high-end models with no problems?? I get dialy report
> from Cisco on bugs alert.
>
> When you type "show config". You may think it looks like C. Because they add
> "{", "}" to better manage the config. I think we should try to accept new
> thing not just happy with Cisco CLI.
>
> There are no different when you config the router However, Junos provides
> CLI features that are good for large config file.
>
> Regards,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Hescock [mailto:bhescock@cisco.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 11:45 AM
> To: Chan, Echo
> Cc: 'Andrew'; damien; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: OT: Juniper........
>
> It's apples and oranges. Yes, someone can be faster if it's a
> stripped down model with hardly any features. Let's see what kind of
> problems they have when they start adding features... ;-) I've heard they
> already have a problem with 30% of their packets being out of
> sequence. And personally, I've seen one of their configs and it's
> ugly. You would like it if you're a programmer because the config looks
> like C. Not my idea of fun... my $.02 anyway.
>
> Brian
>
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Chan, Echo wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Based on BSD but only BSD you can't run JUNOS. Juniper had PC versions for
> > laboratory. You need Intel 10/100 Network Card. All cisco guys know that
> > M20/M40/160 are much better than Cisco 12000. That's why UUNET migrate all
> > backbone routers (Actually not only backbone routers) to junipers. Many
> ISPs
> > are migrate to Juniper.
> >
> > Junos provides better CLI and commands semantic are similar to Cisco. I
> > always try to translate Junos command to cisco equivalent.
> >
> > regards
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew [mailto:arousch@home.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 8:40 AM
> > To: damien; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: OT: Juniper........
> >
> >
> > Juniper is definitely a fat box. The OS is based on FreeBSD. If you are
> > familiar with BSD then you will be right at home with JunOS.
> >
> > At 01:12 AM 10/4/00 +0000, damien wrote:
> >
> >
> > Just wondering has anyobdy used these boxes and what are there feelings on
> > Junipers Success in the Market place, whats the front end
> > like.............From feedback I have received from non-biased Engineers;
> > Juniper kicks ass in terms of performance but is not as feature
> > rich...................
> >
> > I am just wondering down the road are we going to be going for
> > JCIE...............I think it is wise to have experience in both, not to
> > mention the money u can earn..................just
> > pondering.................
> >
> > A lot of people are jumping on the CCIE bandwagon for various reasons;
> > people looking for the challenge, the money, FA else to do, others ( the
> > weird that is) looking for an avenue for
> > Divorce.............etc....etc.............and hence the money is going
> > down....well this is the case in the UK.............
> >
> > thoughts, humour, all major credit cards accepted........ :-)
> >
> > D
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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