From: Chan, Echo (Echo.Chan@xxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Oct 04 2000 - 01:09:00 GMT-3
Cisco are selling not only 12000 Series Router when they meet Juniper. They
sell a total solution. 12000 + 6509 (GigabitEthernet Switches). You know --
ATM are dying.
I do agree with Brian. Juniper's features are so limited since they have no
ipx/appletalk/ibm. However, It is a fact that people are migrating to
Juniper because of MPLS.
Do you think Cisco high-end models with no problems?? I get dialy report
from Cisco on bugs alert.
When you type "show config". You may think it looks like C. Because they add
"{", "}" to better manage the config. I think we should try to accept new
thing not just happy with Cisco CLI.
There are no different when you config the router However, Junos provides
CLI features that are good for large config file.
Regards,
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hescock [mailto:bhescock@cisco.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 11:45 AM
To: Chan, Echo
Cc: 'Andrew'; damien; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: OT: Juniper........
It's apples and oranges. Yes, someone can be faster if it's a
stripped down model with hardly any features. Let's see what kind of
problems they have when they start adding features... ;-) I've heard they
already have a problem with 30% of their packets being out of
sequence. And personally, I've seen one of their configs and it's
ugly. You would like it if you're a programmer because the config looks
like C. Not my idea of fun... my $.02 anyway.
Brian
On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Chan, Echo wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Based on BSD but only BSD you can't run JUNOS. Juniper had PC versions for
> laboratory. You need Intel 10/100 Network Card. All cisco guys know that
> M20/M40/160 are much better than Cisco 12000. That's why UUNET migrate all
> backbone routers (Actually not only backbone routers) to junipers. Many
ISPs
> are migrate to Juniper.
>
> Junos provides better CLI and commands semantic are similar to Cisco. I
> always try to translate Junos command to cisco equivalent.
>
> regards
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew [mailto:arousch@home.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 8:40 AM
> To: damien; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Juniper........
>
>
> Juniper is definitely a fat box. The OS is based on FreeBSD. If you are
> familiar with BSD then you will be right at home with JunOS.
>
> At 01:12 AM 10/4/00 +0000, damien wrote:
>
>
> Just wondering has anyobdy used these boxes and what are there feelings on
> Junipers Success in the Market place, whats the front end
> like.............From feedback I have received from non-biased Engineers;
> Juniper kicks ass in terms of performance but is not as feature
> rich...................
>
> I am just wondering down the road are we going to be going for
> JCIE...............I think it is wise to have experience in both, not to
> mention the money u can earn..................just
> pondering.................
>
> A lot of people are jumping on the CCIE bandwagon for various reasons;
> people looking for the challenge, the money, FA else to do, others ( the
> weird that is) looking for an avenue for
> Divorce.............etc....etc.............and hence the money is going
> down....well this is the case in the UK.............
>
> thoughts, humour, all major credit cards accepted........ :-)
>
> D
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