From: Derek Buelna (dameon@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Sep 28 2000 - 12:29:22 GMT-3
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Omar
Baceski
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 7:49 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: ECP1 vs book " BRS by Caslow"
guys, do you know where i can find more detalis about the class? (i.e. the
web site).
thanks
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Rahmlow, Howard F. [SMTP:howard.rahmlow@unisys.com]
> Enviado el: Jueves, 28 de Septiembre de 2000 08:57 a.m.
> Para: 'Devinder Singh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Asunto: RE: ECP1 vs book " BRS by Caslow"
>
> Devin, when I first read your question last night I was ready to shoot
> back
> a quick reply saying, the class is great, spend the money ect ect.... I
> almost hit the send button, but did not. I thought about it last night. I
> had this some conversation with a co-worker the other day, and told them
> to
> take the class, but then latter was not sure if that was the right thing
> to
> do. In you question you mention the cost. Yes the cost is 3600. That gets
> you in the class, and another copy of the book. Depending on location of
> the
> class your costs are going to be different. I took the class in Aug, in NY
> City. The hotel was on average for the class 200.00 a night, there is
> another 1000. You also have to eat something, and get to the location.
> Lets
> just for fun say the class, all said and done is going to cost 4600-5000.
> That may be high but its the number I'll use. The class was great. Bruce
> really does do a good job on hitting the high points, and makes you look
> at
> things in a different way. Also the members of the class were also great.
> We
> had a few people who knew BGP inside and out. They could explain things to
> the rest of us, in a way that made sense. That was the same for a number
> of
> the topics. The down side of the class is that it is only a week, and by
> Friday, your brain will explode. If you do take the class, take real good
> notes, you will remember only a few things if you don't, there is just to
> much material to remember, in a short time. The other down side is that
> the
> class, and book needs to be updated. The newer lab test, go into allot of
> areas that are not covered in the book. Bruce does have allot of hand out
> to
> try and make up for those areas. If they were giving the lab test they did
> a
> year ago you would be in great shape, but they are not. Do to the fact you
> mentioned the money, I'm going to assume that you may doing this on your
> own, or don't have allot of resources at work. In that case what I would
> do
> is skip the class, spend the money on a few routers, and buy the boot-camp
> labs. You should be able to get a few routers, and the labs for less then
> the 4600-5000 for the class. You also should have some money left over to
> rent rack time. Even if you just take the class, you are going to need
> something to practice on after the class. If you don't, you have wasted
> the
> money. Most of the topics covered in the class, are also in the boot-camp
> labs. Some of the examples are all most the same. If I'm wrong and money
> is
> not a problem, then do both.
>
> My 2 Cents
> Howard
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Devinder Singh [mailto:devinder@collabria.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 7:51 PM
> To: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
> Subject: ECP1 vs book " BRS by Caslow"
>
>
> Hello all..
>
> I need advise from fellow list members regd the famous ECP1 course vs the
> book "Bridges Routers and Switches" by Caslow. They seem to have same
> course content. I have gone through that book 2-3 times and understand it
> reasonably well (except for Non-IP protocols). Is it still worth
> attending
> ECP1 course?? It is $3600, which is quite expensive for me. Also, do
> they
> cover topics like VOIP, VPN and multicast etc which are part of lab exam
> but not covered in book??
>
> Another suggestion which I got was, that instead of spending $3600, it is
> better to buy 3 Routers and build my own lab (which I don't have right
> now)
> and practice on them since I have alreday gone through the book.
>
> What is your suggestion ???.
>
> Thanks
> Devin
>
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