From: Alejandro Cadarso (a.cadarso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Aug 29 2000 - 11:23:47 GMT-3
John,
I thought in the same way as Kenny, you shouldn't need the LECS if you
specify the addresses for LES BUS and LEC.
Perhaps there is some issue in Cisco implementation because of
configuring in the same subinterface the Lane Server and the client and
not using LECS.
In the original post from Matt, everithing seems Ok, and it must work:
I only are confused about:
>>LE Server ATM0.3, Elan name: elan3, Admin: up, State: operational
>>Master/Backup: Backup, Type: ethernet, Max Frame Size: 1516
>>locally set elan-id: not set
>>elan-id obtained from LECS: not set
>>ATM address: 47.0091810000000050E2058501.00000C34B43B.03
>>LECS used: 47.007900000000000000000000.00A03E000001.00 NOT yet connected
LECS used is LECs ATM well-known address, and I'm not sure if The LES
is fully operational without its VC connection with the LECS.
Also we have that "Master/Backup: Backup", perhaps there is another LES
for this ELAN?????, or when you have no LECS, the LES because of
the Cisco SSRP thinks that it is the Server Backup for the ELAN.
In the proof that Kenny sends we only see the LE Client, and I'm almost sure
that the problen is in the server.
Alejandro
John Conzone wrote:
>
> Can't argue with that! I'll try it! Thanks!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kenny Sallee" <mischa@worldshare.net>
> To: "John Conzone" <jkconzone@home.com>; "Alan Simpkins"
> <alan_simpkins@yahoo.com>; "Brian Best" <bbest@bellatlantic.net>; "'Matt
> Lachberg 3'" <Cisco@datastreet.com>; "CCIE Lab List (E-mail)"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: static lane question -- The Proof
>
> > Here's the output from "sh lane client" on the same router I posted the
> > configs from. A friend of mine who still works there captured it for me:
> >
> > LE Client ATM4/0/0.214 ELAN name: spud Admin: up State: operational
> > Client ID: 8269 LEC up for 25 days 6 hours 11 minutes 50
> > seconds
> > Join Attempt: 1
> > HW Address: 0060.3ee3.3680 Type: ethernet Max Frame Size:
> 1516
> > ATM Address: 47.000601182000010000100072.00603EE33680.D6
> >
> > VCD rxFrames txFrames Type ATM Address
> > 0 0 0 configure
> > 00.000000000000000000000000.000000000000.00 <-- NO
> > LECS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > 1151 0 0 direct
> > 47.000601182000010000100072.4004B54E8005.01
> > 1152 0 0 distribute
> > 47.000601182000010000100072.4004B54E8005.01
> > 1153 0 5 send
> > 47.000601182000010000100072.4004B54E8005.02
> > 1154 291 0 forward
> > 47.000601182000010000100072.4004B54E8005.02
> >
> >
> > Notice no LECS address. The original post showed the LEC not coming up.
> I
> > don't think this was a problem with LES/BUS assignment but a problem with
> > assigning the LEC address itself.
> >
> > HA!!!! NANANANNANA!!!( had to add that all in good humor :)
> >
> > Kenny
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Conzone" <jkconzone@home.com>
> > To: "Alan Simpkins" <alan_simpkins@yahoo.com>; "Kenny Sallee"
> > <mischa@worldshare.net>; "Brian Best" <bbest@bellatlantic.net>; "'Matt
> > Lachberg 3'" <Cisco@datastreet.com>; "CCIE Lab List (E-mail)"
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 2:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: static lane question
> >
> >
> > > Alan, have you ever had it working without a LECS? I've tried
> several
> > > times and even called Cisco and they told me it was required. In fact, I
> > > checked this with the local CCIE.
> > > I have some ATM lab time coming up and will test this.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Alan Simpkins" <alan_simpkins@yahoo.com>
> > > To: "John Conzone" <jkconzone@home.com>; "Kenny Sallee"
> > > <mischa@worldshare.net>; "Brian Best" <bbest@bellatlantic.net>; "'Matt
> > > Lachberg 3'" <Cisco@datastreet.com>; "CCIE Lab List (E-mail)"
> > > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 12:21 PM
> > > Subject: Re: static lane question
> > >
> > >
> > > > Actually a LECS is an optional component of LANE, only
> > > > the LES/BUS, and Client are required. The LECS
> > > > function is to provide NSAP of Lane components, not
> > > > necessary if hardcoded in client.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- John Conzone <jkconzone@home.com> wrote:
> > > > > Kenny, I guess we can go back and forth, but if
> > > > > you try to implememt
> > > > > LANE without a LECS, it won't work. Its in the RFC
> > > > > as well.
> > > > > Try it. Good luck.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Kenny Sallee" <mischa@worldshare.net>
> > > > > To: "John Conzone" <jkconzone@home.com>; "Brian
> > > > > Best"
> > > > > <bbest@bellatlantic.net>; "'Matt Lachberg 3'"
> > > > > <Cisco@datastreet.com>; "CCIE
> > > > > Lab List (E-mail)" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 6:05 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: static lane question
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Unfortunatly this is a working config from a
> > > > > previous position so I can't
> > > > > > get in the router for any other config stuff. But
> > > > > I remember that the
> > > > > > LES/BUS was on a Bay Networks ATM switch. And
> > > > > it's definatly LANE!! The
> > > > > > Bay switches had ethernet hosts plugged into them
> > > > > and an ATM blade for
> > > > > > connectivity between ATM switches and ATM
> > > > > interface on the router.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also per cisco from the command reference guides:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > lane bus-atm-address
> > > > > > To specify an ATM address---and thus override the
> > > > > automatic ATM address
> > > > > > assignment---for the broadcast-and-unknown server
> > > > > on the specified
> > > > > > subinterface, use the lane bus-atm-address
> > > > > interface configuration
> > > > > command.
> > > > > > To remove the ATM address previously specified for
> > > > > the
> > > > > broadcast-and-unknown
> > > > > > server on the specified subinterface and thus
> > > > > revert to the automatic
> > > > > > address assignment, use the no form of this
> > > > > command.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > lane bus-atm-address atm-address-template
> > > > > > no lane bus-atm-address [atm-address-template]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > lane server-atm-address
> > > > > > To specify an ATM address---and thus override the
> > > > > automatic ATM address
> > > > > > assignment---for the LANE server on the specified
> > > > > subinterface, use the
> > > > > lane
> > > > > > server-atm-address interface configuration
> > > > > command. To remove the ATM
> > > > > > address previously specified for the LANE server
> > > > > on the specified
> > > > > > subinterface and thus revert to the automatic
> > > > > address assignment, use the
> > > > > no
> > > > > > form of this command.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > lane server-atm-address atm-address-template
> > > > > > no server-atm-address [atm-address-template]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://127.0.0.1:8080/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/switch_r/xrla
> > > > > > ne.htm#xtocid2550738
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please someone prove me wrong. This is a concept
> > > > > I thought was well
> > > > > known.
> > > > > > The LECS only purpose is to supply the LEC with
> > > > > the LES. If you manually
> > > > > > set the LES for an LEC, you no longer need the
> > > > > LECS.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kenny
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "John Conzone" <jkconzone@home.com>
> > > > > > To: "Kenny Sallee" <mischa@worldshare.net>; "Brian
> > > > > Best"
> > > > > > <bbest@bellatlantic.net>; "'Matt Lachberg 3'"
> > > > > <Cisco@datastreet.com>;
> > > > > "CCIE
> > > > > > Lab List (E-mail)" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 12:15 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: static lane question
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kenny, where do you have the ELANs defined?
> > > > > Have you tried putting
> > > > > > > other devices in your network in the same ELAN?
> > > > > How do they find the
> > > > > > LES/BUS
> > > > > > > for your three ELANS?LANE requires a LECS to
> > > > > operate.
> > > > > > > I'm not sure what is working on your router,
> > > > > but if its LANE, then
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > have got my attention!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As per Cisco:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > LANE configuration server
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The LANE configuration server contains the
> > > > > database that determines
> > > > > which
> > > > > > > emulated LAN a device belongs to (each
> > > > > configuration server can have a
> > > > > > > different named database). Each LANE client
> > > > > consults the LANE
> > > > > > configuration
> > > > > > > server just once, when it joins an emulated LAN,
> > > > > to determine which
> > > > > > emulated
> > > > > > > LAN it should join. The LANE configuration
> > > > > server returns the ATM
> > > > > address
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > the LANE server for that emulated LAN.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One LANE configuration server is required per
> > > > > LANE ATM switch cloud.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Kenny Sallee" <mischa@worldshare.net>
> > > > > > > To: "Brian Best" <bbest@bellatlantic.net>;
> > > > > "'Matt Lachberg 3'"
> > > > > > > <Cisco@datastreet.com>; "CCIE Lab List (E-mail)"
> > > > > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 3:06 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: static lane question
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I disagree. Unless I'm totally missing
> > > > > something, if you manually
> > > > > > specify
> > > > > > > > the LES/BUS ( hard code them ) you don't need
> > > > > a LECS address. Here's
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > working config off a 7507 router with an ATM
> > > > > card:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > interface ATM4/0/0
> > > > > > > > no ip address
> > > > > > > > no ip directed-broadcast
> > > > > > > > ip split-horizon
> > > > > > > > atm pvc 1 0 5 qsaal
> > > > > > > > atm pvc 2 0 16 ilmi
> > > > > > > > hold-queue 100 in
> > > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > > interface ATM4/0/0.140 multipoint
> > > > > > > > ip address 192.168.1.106 255.255.255.248
> > > > > > > > ip access-group 140 in
> > > > > > > > no ip mroute-cache
> > > > > > > > lane server-atm-address <nsap>
> > > > > > > > lane bus-atm-address <nsap>
> > > > > > > > lane client ethernet spud
> > > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > > interface ATM4/0/0.198 multipoint
> > > > > > > > description Net Ops Users
> > > > > > > > ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0
> > > > > > > > ip access-group 198 in
> > > > > > > > ip access-group 195 out
> > > > > > > > no ip mroute-cache
> > > > > > > > lane server-atm-address <nsap>
> > > > > > > > lane bus-atm-address <nsap>
> > > > > > > > lane client ethernet meister
> > > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > > interface ATM4/0/0.206 multipoint
> > > > > > > > description Sys Admin Users
> > > > > > > > ip address 192.168.0.193 255.255.255.240
> > > > > > > > ip access-group 196 in
> > > > > > > > no ip directed-broadcast
> > > > > > > > no ip mroute-cache
> > > > > > > > lane server-atm-address <nsap>
> > > > > > > > lane bus-atm-address <nsap>
> > > > > > > > lane client ethernet thisworks!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I changed the IPs and elan names.....Please
> > > > > let me know what I'm
> > > > > missing
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kenny
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >
> > > > === message truncated ===
> > > >
> > > >
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