From: John Conzone (jkconzone@xxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Jul 10 2000 - 19:17:52 GMT-3
You talking to me? I don't see anybody else here! You must be talking to
me cause I don't see nobody else!
Rent "Taxi Driver" and see how ole Travis Bickle would handle those
proctors! Mess with Jodi Foster will ya?
I'm sorry but sometimes this CCIE quest gets out of hand and I need to
put it in perspective, at least for myself.
Obviously I'm not up for a serious conversation on this thread so I'll
just bow out!
Yo, Paulie, wait up!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Edwards" <bedwards@juniper.net>
To: "'John Conzone'" <jkconzone@home.com>; "Jeff Sapiro"
<jsapiro@wnmail.wndev.att.com>; "Earl Aboytes" <earl@linkline.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: Passing the test
> What do you think a certification should be? Obviously MS certs are
becoming
> a joke (no offense), the CCIE seems to be based on a curve where they only
> allow so many to pass every quarter. If you were developing a new
> certification program, what would be the most important aspects? How would
> you keep the cert credible, yet fair.
>
> Obviously the #1 purpose of these certs is to raise money for the company
> through (1) growing the knowledge base of your product, so customers will
> buy your product b/c it is easy to find employees to support it, and (2)
by
> selling books, courses and lab fees.
>
> I know the CCIE process is frustrating (I took a step back and failed to
> reach day two on my second attempt), but I think it is a great model for
> other certifications. Your input would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
> ---------------------------------------
> Brian Edwards
> Juniper Networks, Inc.
> JTAC / Technical Support Engineer
> Ph: 408-745-2152
> ---------------------------------------
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Conzone [mailto:jkconzone@home.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 2:14 PM
> > To: Jeff Sapiro; Earl Aboytes
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Passing the test
> >
> >
> > You're lucky Joe Pesci isn't one of us!
> > Rent "Goodfella's" and see how he like "amusing" and
> > "entertaining"
> > people!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Sapiro" <jsapiro@wnmail.wndev.att.com>
> > To: "Earl Aboytes" <earl@linkline.com>
> > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 12:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: Passing the test
> >
> >
> > > I agree, there are many excellent network people here
> > failing the test;
> > but this
> > > test is more about being an expert in taking the test - it keeps me
> > > entertained...
> > > -Jeff
> > >
> > > Earl Aboytes wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is no one passing this exam? I have seen only one post
> > from our group
> > by
> > > > Erik CCIE #5983 in the last few months. I also heard that only 14
> > people
> > > > have passed a particular test in San Jose and the test
> > has been out
> > since
> > > > April. The lead-time to schedule this test is up to 3 and a half
> > months.
> > > >
> > > > There are a lot of bright, knowledgeable people on this
> > list that are
> > > > failing this test. This is really starting to p!$$ me
> > off. Is anyone
> > else
> > > > as frustrated as I am?
> > > >
> > > > I consider myself a solid candidate. The last time I
> > took the exam I
> > didn't
> > > > even make it to day two. What is going on here?
> > Somebody clue me in,
> > > > please! I am starting to NOT see the point of this certification
> > anymore.
> > > >
> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > Earl Aboytes
> > > > Senior Technical Conultant
> > > > GTE Managed Solutions
> > > > 805-381-8817
> > > > earl.aboytes@telops.gte.com
> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > >
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