From: John Conzone (jkconzone@xxxxxxxx)
Date: Fri May 26 2000 - 12:52:22 GMT-3
If I guy gets his CCIE and doesn't know his stuff, he's gonna get
flamed on the job. When I attain my CCIE, I will have earned it and will be
confident that I am capable of providing the kind of support and expertise
that goes with the title. But I don't worry about anyone else who may be
cheating. Don't have time. They will be no competion for those of us who do
it right anyway.
I don't think the CCIE pool will be diluted. Relax, guys. If you know
your stuff you'll always have a nice paying job regardless, CCIE or no. If
you don't, well CCIE or no, you'll get found out as a fraud.
Most folks on here ask good solid questions that we can all learn from,
and are doing there best to honestly earn the title of CCIE. If you see
someone ask a test question, call them on it on lets move on! The only
person I'm competing with is myself. If someone else gets over, well thats
his problem because he'll eventually fail.
John Conzone
CCNA, CCNP, CCNP Voice, CNE, CCIE Wannabe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hedlund, Brad" <BHedlund@realapps.com>
To: "'carl commander'" <carl_commander@hotmail.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: GROUPSTUDY - ETHICS
> Absolutely on the mark Carl!
>
> Let me also say that people recently have been asking .... how shall I say
> this ... LAZY questions.
> "How do I configure this" "How do I configure that" kind of questions.
>
> LOOK IT UP YOURSELF! The answer is right on the Doc CD!
>
>
> Becoming a CCIE isnt only about passing a 2-day Lab exam. Its the
struggle
> of getting there that makes you a CCIE!
>
> SUCCESS IS A JOURNEY, NOT A DESTINATION
>
>
>
> Brad Hedlund
> CCIE #5530
> REAL Solutions (CENTRON)
> Elcamino Resources Ltd.
> Eden Prairie, MN.
> (952) 829-2877
>
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I dont want this to come out the wrong way but I would like
> > to make a point
> > about this forum without upsetting anyone or causing bad feeling.
> > I have been reading this forum for a number of months and I
> > am seeing more
> > and more questions being asked which to my knowledge have been lifted
> > directly from the the lab. I have taken the lab 3 times, each
> > time reaching
> > troubleshooting but narrowly failing. From this I have seen a
> > wide range of
> > questions for different scenario's and as I I have had all my
> > attempts this
> > year all the questions are very relevant as these labs will
> > still be active
> > in the test cirriculum.
> > As I was saying there seems to be people posting questions at
> > least 5-6 a
> > week either the same or different questions that appear in
> > labs. This is not
> > a coincidence.
> > I beleive by doing this the CCIE will be de-valued as people
> > are taking
> > shortcuts and not going out and reading the cisco literature
> > and learning
> > themselves the answers and idosynacries of certain protocols.
> > Like I say I am not attempting to annoy people I would just
> > like to say that
> > when I earn my CCIE I will have earned it fairly.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Carl.
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