From: ironbrad wangurus (ironbrad@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue May 02 2000 - 02:57:00 GMT-3
Don't even get me started on the ATM equipment you have...
That's a cool Cisco program that compresses images. What's it called?
You simulated the ISDN with a single ISDN line? neat trick
I never said your auction was outrageously over priced...I just simply
stated what I thought it was worth.
I have NEVER attempted to sell nor "peddle" used cisco hardware on this
list.
Flaming you? Hardly! Did I make any personal attacks? No!
Monster.com...hehe that was a good one
You should try submitting your resume to Blues Clues!!!
Light'n up dude.
ttyl,
-brad
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Ehlers" <ccieorbust@ns1.networkease.com>
To: "CCIELAB" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Cc: "ironbrad wangurus" <ironbrad@WANgurus.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: My HUGE CCIE Lab...
>
> > Bud, I ALSO paid for EVERYTHING myself. And I dished out quite a bit
more
> > than $15k (although I have VoIP, ISL trunking, ISDN simulator, and
more). I
> > had no provided lab, NONE. Since buying all of this stuff myself, I
also
> > have gotten into reselling the equipment. I know the value of what each
> > thing is worth...
>
> Oh, you are reselling equipment... Well, I didn't start reselling
> equipment to make money on the side. Maybe if I had decided to make a
> business out of it, it would not have hurt so much.
>
> > the 4500 w/ DS3 is a great router, but pretty much useless
> > for CCIE lab studying...(at least for the price, you could get a 4000M+
and
> > skip the DS3 module)
>
> the ATM DS3 module is totally useable for the Lab... too bad you either
> don't know what it can do, or how to use it. You can do any ATM
> configuration scenario with it.
>
> > And what kind of IOS is loaded on these routers??? What version of IOS
12.0
> > enterprise w/ IPSEC for a 2500 fits on an 8-meg flash?
>
> I used a cisco utility to compress the image, so that it runs from RAM...
> much like the 4500's work.
>
> > I did price out each router and add everything up...(including misc.
stuff)
>
> Well, I guess maybe I should have bought the stuff from you, since you
> have such wonderful prices... unfortunantly, I had to use the only
> resource available to me... e-bay.
>
> > There are no books listed in your auction, either...
>
> I didn't charge for any either... if you read my e-mail, I said I paid
> over 15K, NOT INCLUDING books, materials, etc.
>
> > Yeah, you do have routers with ISDN, but how are you going to use it???
> > With a magical cable??? Lol...joke...my point being, you dont have an
ISDN
> > simulator included, so those ISDN router features are pretty much
useless
> > unless you have a simulator.
>
> Well, those of us on a more limited budget go with just a real ISDN line..
> costs much less than an ISDN simulator for a few months, and I already had
> one.
>
> > I'm not trying to be a prick or make you look bad, I just simply think
the
> > auction is overpriced. Keep to myself??? I don't think so. That's what
> > the groupstudy list is for, facilitation of information. Just because
you
> > don't like what I have to say, doesn't mean I shouldn't say it!
>
> You think my auction is overpriced by what standard? You picking up
> routers from some liquidation house? Besides that, the 15% "overcharge",
> even if your numbers are correct, doesn't seem that HUGE. If it is so out
> of line, why worry with it, no one will bid on it?... OR maybe you're
> trying to advertise your own equipment for sale, and trash talk anyone
> else with something.
>
> I actually thanked you for your positive contribution to the list in my
> previous e-mail. I don't personally feel that you had or have any usefull
> information to give... That you now have your CCIE and are still trolling
> mailing lists trying to flame people and peddling used Cisco
> equipment tells me that you should maybe spend some more time on
> monster.com, instead of in here.
>
> >
> > -Brad
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rob Ehlers" <ccieorbust@ns1.networkease.com>
> > To: "ironbrad wangurus" <ironbrad@WANgurus.com>
> > Cc: "CCIELAB" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 12:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: My HUGE CCIE Lab...
> >
> >
> > > Well, since I bought all of the stuff off of e-bay, and I paid over
15K
> > > for everything, I'd say you were wrong. If you have a problem with the
> > > price, that's fine... why don't you keep that to yourself and see if
> > > everyone else feels the same way in 7 days when it closes?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your positive contribution to the list.
> > >
> > > Hmm... lets see... 2503 - ISDN .. 2520 - ISDN ... ATM DS3 card has
the
> > > exact same atm configuration commands at the OC-3 cards (I used the
> > > cciebootcamp labs on it no problem). True, no VoIP .. ISL trucking
> > > possible with a router with a Fast ethernet port.
> > >
> > > I'm sure your $13K figure came after extensive research on each of
those
> > > parts... about 10 minutes of looking over it? Or maybe you know
because
> > > you financed your lab effort completely by yourself, as I did.
Probably
> > > not... company pay for everything?... provide a lab? Maybe you should
> > > consider that I have over 15K of personal money tied up in this stuff
> > > (not to mention what I had to pay for books, materials, lab and
> > > travel), and don't appreciate your response, as it does nothing except
try
> > > to make me look bad...
> > >
> > > Thanks again, and have a great day.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rob Ehlers, CCIE #5769
> > > rehlers@newsguy.com
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2 May 2000, ironbrad wangurus wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's worth about $13,000 on the used market (at that's at top
prices).
> > It's
> > > > got no voice over IP, ISDN, ISL trunking, nor any useful ATM
components.
> > > >
> > > > Just my 2cents.
> > > >
> > > > -Brad Ellis
> > > > CCIE#5796
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Rob Ehlers" <ccieorbust@ns1.networkease.com>
> > > > To: "CCIELAB" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 11:33 PM
> > > > Subject: FS: My HUGE CCIE Lab...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Anyone looking for a COMPLETE lab-to-go, check out my auction...
> > > > > it took me months to collect all this stuff, and it has everything
> > > > > you need (I passed the first time)
> > > > >
> > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=322842843
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Rob Ehlers, CCIE #5769
> > > > > rehlers@newsguy.com
> > > > >
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