RE: Voice over IP . how much?

From: Richard Wagner (Richard.Wagner@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Feb 29 2000 - 12:30:29 GMT-3


   
   
    Title: RE: Voice over IP . how much?
    
   Hello All,
   
   I got the book Jason mentioned (Configuring Cisco VoIP, Syngress) and
   a book
   called "Cisco Packetized Voice & Data Integration" Caputo/McGraw-Hill,
   isbn
   0-07-134777-1. I've read both and *highly* recommend the Caputo book
   over
   the Syngress book.
   
   The Caputo book is much much much better for those of us looking to
   satisfy
   Cisco's voice requirements on the CCIE lab. I make that statement
   from
   seeing the voice in my last lab attempt. It is written for people
   with
   strong lan/wan knowledge and weak phone/pbx knowledge. You get
   lessons on
   how the phone in your house evolved, how it turned digital, and how
   the
   routers move that digital data. QoS is a big component of VoIP and it
   is
   covered well. A natural addition to the CCIE lab will be QoS for IP,
   especially now that voice is covered.
   
   For us geek CCIE wannabes :), getting hands-on for voice will be
   difficult
   (just like ATM). I'm confident that being book-smart with this book
   (and
   the minor experience gained from my lab attempt) will get me through.
   
   Good luck to all!
   
   Richard Wagner
   
   (read on if you want to know about the Syngress book)
   
   OK, since I wasted $40+ on the Syngress book, here comes the flame...
   (my
   personal negative opinion/review)
   
   The Syngress book, in my opinion, sucks. It's only strong points are
   that
   it covers H.323 and the "pbx on a net" ideas using Call Manager (the
   other
   book doesn't touch it). There are many errors, crap is cut/pasted in,
   the
   tables are missing information, and the tables' data conflicts with
   the
   paragraphs accompanying them. (example: the paragraph states "Cisco
   supports all five types of E&M ports", the adjacent table correctly
   states
   that type IV is not supported).
   
   It was great to get fuzzy ideas on H.323 and network-PBX... the rest
   of the
   data has constant flaws and I eventually didn't trust the information
   to be
   complete or correct. The author doesn't have CCNP, CCDP or CCIE
   certifications and it shows... kind of like hiring an MCSE that
   doesn't have
   experience yet. The "technical editor" CCIE obviously didn't do his
   job
   well when a non-technical proofreader would easily catch many of the
   errors.
   The IP addresses don't match up in the labs. The loopbacks on
   different
   routers are in the same IP subnet while using the loopbacks for
   unnumbered
   serial interfaces. Why add the unnecessary complexity?
   
   Additionally, over 20% of the book (over 100 pages) is dedicated to
   appendices for IPv6. This is a lot of unnecessary padding in a book
   called
   "CONFIGURING Cisco VoIP" I have yet to see a VoIP command use
   anything but
   ipv4:, dns:, ras, or loopback: for targets. Without giving an opinion
   on
   the importance of IPv6, it should be in a book with the word "IPv6" in
   the
   title. Additional padding comes in ROI studies and future projections
   for
   the technology. You'd be better off scrounging the 'net and doing
   your own
   cut/paste study guide.
   
   I'd see this as a great opportunity to make my own book on this
   subject, but
   Caputo has this one well covered! Give this book to your
   semi-technical
   manager for a better chance to see VoIP in your real-world future.
   
   Ok, I'm done, I will breathe now :)



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