RE: heartbreak in San Jose

From: Lee, Vaughan (vaughan.lee@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Feb 02 2000 - 10:25:50 GMT-3


   
I think a valuable point that comes up here is don't be afraid to ask the
proctor questions. I found that as long as you display an understanding of
what you are doing and phrase the question right, you will get an answer.
For example, if there are two ways of doing something and your choice would
normally depend on other factors not specified in the lab, explain to the
proctor that there are two ways and if he is looking for this you would use
one method and if he's after that you would use the other method. By doing
that you've demonstrated an understanding and will get the help you need.
I've done it. The worse that can happen is you'll be told they can't answer
the question, the best is that your answers will match theirs.

In the labs I took in Brussels, I probably asked at least five questions
each day, even more on some days. Most were answered in a way that told me
what I wanted if I understood the subject.

Another thing to make use of is the post exam discussion with the proctor
(although I've heard this doesn't neccessarily happen in the USA - something
to do with the constitution that means people can't be questioned about why
they've done certain things?). If you've not got something as the proctor
would have done it, you can justify your actions and possibly talk your way
in to a point or two. In my last lab something wasn't working 100%
correctly, but after discussion with the proctor and a couple of changes we
both agreed that it should have worked and I got the points. If you don't
get the points you can at least demonstrate an understanding here that may
help swing it at the end.

I had to take the test three times to pass. Two proctors were very helpful
and the other not quite as helpful, though still extremely fair. All
answered questions to varying degrees, all allowed points to be made in the
discussions, and all were there as a resource.

Regards,
Vaughan

Vaughan Lee, Network Specialist.
CCIE #5250
debis IT Services (UK) Ltd.
E-mail: vaughan.lee@debis.co.uk
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bausenwein [mailto:mikeb55@home.com]
Sent: 29 January 2000 16:49
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: heartbreak in San Jose

Hello Gentlemen,

    I took and failed my CCIE lab in San Jose. While I got most of the
major things working, I screwed up on stupid crap that I didn't have a
chance to fix, ie typos, and or mismatches on very trivial things. My
advice is to test each step you do thoroughly, not just race to get to the
finish and try to verify all little details later. Usually there will not
be a later. Also, be prepared to be a mind reader, Just because your
solution works, doesn't mean that it was the solution the Proctor was
looking for.... Would love to elaborate, but can't (NDA). 5 people took
it together and none of us made it to day 2. The same thing happened the
day before. 10 people and no day 2 HMMMMM......... The good news is
that there wasn't anything except one small question that I wouldn't have
gotten right had I checked my work more closely. I'll get it next time, or
at least not fail on such stupid things. Foll me once shame on you, fool
me twice and shame on me.

Michael Bausenwein
Network Engineer
Greenwich Technology Parteners
CCNP MCSE CNE
email:mbausenwein@greenwichtech.com
<mailto:email:mbausenwein@greenwichtech.com>



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