From: Scott Morris (SMorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Sat Jul 24 1999 - 02:36:37 GMT-3
Troubleshooting is troubleshooting. Anything you've designed/built can be
broken. Need I say more?
As for recovery of CAT password, it couldn't be any simpler. When you power
the sucker on, the first ... ummm... 30 (I think) seconds of booting are
sans password, which means you hit enter as quick as you can, and "enable",
enter for blank password and change the thing before it continues to load
the image. Cool, huh? :)
Scott Morris, MCSE, CNE (3.x), CCDP, CCIE #4713
smorris@tele-tech.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie M. Parra [mailto:eparra@rexallsundown.com]
Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 11:21 PM
To: Derek Fage; 'Poston, Barry'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Cc: fningham@worldnet.att.net
Subject: RE: CCIE #4932
What types of scenarios are on the troubleshooting part? Has anyone had to
perform password recovery on a Cat? Can someone elaborate on the
troubleshooting part?
-Eddie Parra
-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Fage [mailto:DerekF@itexjsy.com]
Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 1:45 PM
To: 'Poston, Barry'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Cc: 'fningham@worldnet.att.net'
Subject: RE: CCIE #4932
Congratulations Barry !
Unfortunately, although I made it through the troubleshooting, I never
gained the required number of points.
The annoying thing is that there was nothing really that I could not do,
but
I made a number of silly mistakes that cost me valuable points. If there is
one thing I would say, it's READ THE QUESTIONS CAREFULLY, then read them
again to ensure that you read them correctly.
I lost a lot of time on the first morning when I was half way through
addressing my routers and discovered a sentance that I had missed that
meant
that I had to change my numbering scheme. Make your diagram with IP numbers
on BEFORE you start configuring - it's easier to erase a few pencil
addresses that reconfigure routers. I made a huge error when I read a
statement telling us to use subinterfaces on F/R spoke routers as to NOT
use
them. This was due to a lot of the practice I have done I've tried to use a
mix, as it involves more configuration and other issues when using physical
interfaces as opposed to sub-interfaces. Assumption is the mother of all
cock-ups !!!
So I ended up 7 points short in the end - I probably lost all of them in
simple configuration errors through not reading / comprehending it.
Anyway, I feel that having done the lab, I am confident that I will pass
next time - a painful lesson in concentrating more when reading the
questions will ensure that it does not happen again ! I'll be calling cisco
again to reschedule.
Derek...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poston, Barry [SMTP:BPoston@Aegonusa.com]
> Sent: 23 July 1999 08:00
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Cc: 'fningham@worldnet.att.net'; 'Derek Fage'; 'judith7304@aol.com'
> Subject: CCIE #4932
>
> To all,
>
> This message is somewhat wordy, but for those who want to hear about the
> experience of taking the lab exam, what follows is how I saw it.
>
> By some miracle, I hereby report that I have been awarded CCIE #4932!
> Okay, not quite on the same scale as the parting of the Red Sea, but
there
> must have been some divine intervention! I have to agree with those who
> have reported of late that the exam doesn't so much cover topics in great
> detail, it's just that you don't know what might be on the test. It's
not
> so much the depth of your knowledge, but the breadth of that knowledge.
> And, being able to locate in the manuals/CD that which you're not so
> familiar with. I prefer hardcopy to the CD, and I grabbed the manuals
> that
> I wanted, and used them. As for the CD, don't rely on the search
> function,
> know where a topic is, drill down to that specific page(manual), and then
> do
> a 'find' for what you want. It's not too difficult, FR is book IV, IP is
> book V, IPX/Apple is book VI. Know these, and know how to find them on
> the
> CD, without using the search.
>
> This was my first attempt at the lab, and to be honest, I probably would
> have been satisfied with just making it to Day 2. I felt I had a good
> background of experience, but there was so much that I just didn't know
> like
> the back of my hand, because I don't see it every day on the job. Like
> ATM, OPSF, Appletalk, FrameRelay.....
>
> But, I have to give credit where credit is due. I do have 7 years
> experience working on Cisco routers, all models, and lots of IP, IPX, and
> SNA. So, that helped. Secondly, I studied and studied Caslow's text. I
> expect to use this book as an on-the-job reference. Lastly, I took the
> BRS
> class from ARS, Ltd., instructors Fred Ingham and James Park. While the
> class couldn't prepare me for everything I needed to know, it did give me
> a
> feel for what the exam would be like, certain things that I needed to
> know,
> and most importantly, where my weaknesses were. I seriously don't think
I
> would have passed without this class.
>
> Unfortunately, I made a scheduling error that left me wondering if I was
> properly prepared. I passed the written in April, and scheduled the lab
> as
> soon as I could, San Jose on 7/21-22. I took the ARS class in June, and
> wished that I could have taken the lab then, because I was primed. But,
I
> had scheduled a family vacation from 6/25-7/10, and I'll admit, I lost a
> lot
> during that time off. So, between 7/11 and 7/21, I did some serious
> freshening up, but I still did not feel that I was as prepared as I
should
> be. I figured, "hardly anyone passes on the first try, so this will be a
> good experience to build on for the next attempt."
>
> So, Day 1 in San Jose, and you need at least 30 out of 45 to continue.
> From
> some of the past postings to this list, it had appeared that after the
day
> was done, you could stick around into the evening, and find out if you
had
> enough points to continue. Not so, for this group! There were about 7
of
> us testing, and about 7 others on their second day; that is, finding out
> if
> there was to be a second day. I don't know how many of those continued
> into
> day 2, but I do know that 3 of them earned their CCIE.
>
> As for my group of 7, none of us knew if we would return in the morning
to
> good news or bad news. But, it meant that we all had to hit the books,
> and
> get to bed early. That's one part of the exam that I wish could be
> changed.
> It seems unfair to hold everyone in suspense like that. So, we all
> returned
> the next morn, hoping to see the Day 2 book on your desk. If it's not
> there, you didn't make it. If it is, you plug on, but you still don't
> know
> how many points you have scored to that point, just that you must have
had
> at least 30. As for me, I felt that I was right around the magic
number,
> either just below, or just above. Either way, a quite precarious
> position;
> you're either out, or don't really have enough points to carry you
through
> the next part.
>
> At lunchtime of Day 2, there were only 2 of us still in the game. The
> other
> 5 had not scored the minimum 30 for Day 1. At this point, we were to
come
> back from lunch to find out if our scores for the morning were enough to
> keep us going. Some on this list have stated that one needs 30 out of 45
> on
> the first day, 60 out of the cumulative 80 through Day 2 morning, and
then
> whatever you can score from the 20 points available in the afternoon
> troubleshooting. That wasn't quite that way for us. Our possible scores
> were 45, 30, and 25, so I'm not sure what the minimums were. But, when
we
> returned from lunch, we two were still on course. We still didn't know
> how
> many points we had accumulated, though.
>
> At this point, the proctor has inserted multiple bugs/errors/whatever
into
> your network. Find, correct, and document them all, and you pass. I
feel
> this is the easiest part of the test; or, another way of saying that is,
> if
> you've made it this far, you should be able to close it out. If you
> cannot
> troubleshoot issues on a network that you created, then you definitely
> need
> more time in your study lab.
>
> So, we both passed. My scores were 36 for Day 1, 25 for morning 2, and
> all
> 25 for the Troubleshooting, for a total of 86. I don't know the other
> gentleman's name, because he finished before me, but I'm happy for him,
> and
> ecstatic for myself!
>
> For those aspiring to achieve this certification, it can be done! I did
> it!
>
> (Derek, my thoughts are with you. You won't see this until after Day 2,
> but
> here's hoping you are #493x!)
>
>
> Barry Poston CCIE #4932 (That feels good!)
>
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