From: Sears, Michael (AT&T - Denver) (MASears@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Apr 21 1999 - 16:44:47 GMT-3
Greetings:
The interest is there. My personal lab at home has no
Voice over IP or ATM cababilities, which, when I take the
lab on September 29/30 RTP NC, will be there.
As far as an hourly rate I only know that the virtual and
other dialin labs I've looked into are over charging.
Please let me know if you move forward with this and
the costs you come up with / hour.
Thanks,
Michael - CCIE Bound / writtens passed.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Gertsch [SMTP:dgertsch@recom.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 11:15 AM
> To: David Powers
> Cc: 'Stanley Seow'; 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
> Subject: Re: Preparation
>
> All,
>
> My sponsor is willing to setup an ATM Routing and Switching lab with
> 2/3600's, two Cat5's and a 1010 but they want to know if the interest is
> there first.
>
> This rack would be up and ready to use in 3 - 5 weeks, accessible via the
> internet just like our current offering.
>
> What kind of interest is there out there for this additional service?
> And if you are interested, what would you consider a reasonable hourly
> rate?
> (Please keep in mind the startup costs here).
>
> Please reply directly (not to the group).
>
> Thanks,
> Dana
> CCIE 3397
> www.virtualrack.com
>
> David Powers wrote:
>
> > I am taking the lab on june 30th. I feel your pain. I believe that it is
> > possible that their may be some 3600 series routers with atm modules in
> > them. I remember getting an announcement talking about it. Since these
> > are cheaper they may include these in the lab. Not sure though.
> >
> > here is the original message
> >
> > The 3600 platform team is pleased to announce three new high-speed ATM
> > network modules that are now orderable for the 3600 series with IOS
> > release 12.0(3)T1 and above.
> >
> > These three network modules support STS-3c and STM-1 framing standards
> > over
> > Multimode, Singlemode Intermediate Reach, and Singlemode Long Reach
> > fiber
> > optic interfaces. All 3 versions consist of a single-port network module
> > with SC
> > connector types that support the ATM Forum standard ATM adaptation layer
> > 5
> > (AAL5).
> >
> > The three new 3600 series ATM OC-3 network modules that will start
> > shipping
> > on April 19, 1999 include:
> >
> > NM-1A-OC3MM - $6,000 - Single port ATM OC-3 Multimode Fiber network
> > module
> > NM-1A-OC3SMI - $8,000 - Single port ATM OC-3 Singlemode Intermediate
> > Reach
> > Fiber network module
> > NM-1M-OC3SML - $10,000 -Single port ATM OC-3 Singlemode Long Reach Fiber
> > network module
> >
> > The ATM OC-3 Network Modules are only supported on the 3620 and 3640.
> > Cisco's
> > IOS "Plus" feature sets are required for ATM support. A maximum of one
> > ATM OC-3
> > network module is recommended on both the 3640 and 3620. There are no
> > additional
> > Flash or DRAM memory requirements for ATM network modules, other then
> > those
> > specified by the Cisco IOS Release 12.0(3)T Plus minimum memory
> > requirements
> > The 3600 does not support full 155Mbps OC-3 line rates. The maximum
> > supported
> > speeds range from 20 - 80Mbps depending on packet size, and up to 40Kpps
> > with
> > 64 byte packets on a 3640.
> >
> > The ATM Singlemode fiber network modules provide high-speed trunking for
> > users
> > with access to fiber WAN, while the Multimode fiber network module is
> > ideal for
> > connecting colocated high-speed servers, switches, or hubs equiped with
> > an OC-3/
> > STM-1 fiber connection.
> >
> > Voice over IP and H.323 over ATM WAN can be supported using VBR-rt class
> > of
> > service SVC's, using the currently available analog Voice/Fax network
> > modules and
> > Voice Interface Cards.
> >
> > OC-3 ATM Features at a Glance
> >
> > · ATM Service Classes UBR, UBR+, VBR-rt, VBR-nrt, ABR, and CBR
> > · UNI 3.0, 3.1 and 4.0
> > · RFC 1483 and 1577
> > · Layer 2 per-VC Queuing and Traffic Shaping
> > · Up to 1024 simultaneous VCs
> > · F4 and F5 Operations and Management (OAM) cell support
> > · PVC's and SVC's
> > · LANE 2.0
> > · Early Packet Discard
> > · Tag Switching
> > · IETF PPP over ATM
> > · MPOA Client and Server
> > · ILMI
> > · ABR SVC's
> > · ATM UNI 4.0 Traffic Management
> > · ATM Bandwidth Manager
> > · VP Tunnels (Permanent Virtual Paths, PVPs)
> > · NHRP
> >
> > OC-3 ATM Network Module Key Points
> >
> > The introduction of ATM OC-3 network modules for the Cisco 3600
> > multiservice
> > access routers give enterprise and service provider customers a
> > cost-effective solution
> > for extending multiservice capabilities to remote branch-office
> > locations through
> > Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM). These new capabilities on the 3600
> > enable
> > customers to integrate mulitprotocol data, video and IP routing over
> > high-speed ATM,
> > greatly increasing the selection of Wide-Area Network (WAN) deployment
> > options
> > for legacy and LAN-to-LAN connectivity. With OC-3 ATM capability, the
> > 3600 is an
> > ideal solution for customers to deploy high-speed data, voice and video
> > applications
> > through a single robust connection from the branch office to regional or
> > corporate
> > headquarters.
> >
> > Enhanced ATM capabilities on the 3600 give service providers greater
> > traffic
> > management ability and Quality of Service (QoS) controls to deliver
> > business-quality
> > Voice-over-IP (VoIP) and other mission critical applications. Because
> > the new network
> > modules are standards-based ATM and fully interoperate with the complete
> > line of
> > Cisco's carrier-class ATM switches, the 3600 is a cost-effective
> > solution for bandwidth
> > management and service deployment at the service provider network edge.
> > The 3600
> > is a modular router that gives service providers the full benefit of
> > Cisco IOS(tm) software,
> > enabling them to deliver services based on the applications currently
> > running in the
> > largest enterprises.
> >
> > - Cost-Effective ATM CPE Solution for High Speed Managed Router Services
> > - Higher ATM Access speeds (up to 80Mbps) for the 3600 Series
> > - Adds increased WAN flexibility to 3600 platform
> > - Continued investment protection
> > - Improved ATM QoS with support of UBR+, VBR-rt, VBR-nrt, CBR and ABR
> > Class of
> > Services
> > - Improved Traffic Shaping Capabilities - (done in hardware)
> > - New Bandwidth Resource Manager to prevent single VC oversbuscription
> >
> > Frequently Asked Questions sample:
> >
> > Q. On what platforms will the new ATM OC-3 network modules be supported?
> >
> > A. The ATM OC-3 network modules will be supported on both the 3640 and
> > 3620 platforms.
> > At this time there is no planned support on the 2600 platforms. Due to a
> > compatability problem
> > between the 3620 rev. C PCMCIA controller, and the OC-3 network modules,
> > any OC-3 network
> > module ordered as a spare to be used in a 3620 will require that the
> > 3620 have a rev. E
> > PCMCIA controller installed.
> >
> > Before April, 1999 all 3620's in the field have a rev. C PCMCIA
> > controller installed. The customer
> > will recieve a warning message what attempting to configure the OC-3 in
> > a 3620, if the incorrect
> > PCMCIA rev level is detected, and the system will not recognize the OC-3
> > network module.
> > If this occurs then an RMA process must be initiated by a call to the
> > TAC for replacement of the
> > 3620 chassis free of charge.
> >
> > Starting in April 1999 all 3620's shipped from the factory will include
> > rev. E PCMCIA controllers
> > and be compatible to all three ATM OC-3 network modules.
> >
> > Please contact Bill Massung directly for any upgrade issues regarding
> > large 3620/ OC-3 installations
> > at 408/526-8464 or via email at massung@cisco.com.
> >
> > Q. How many ATM OC-3 network modules are supported in a single 3640 and
> > 3620?
> >
> > A. A maximum of one ATM OC-3 network module is recommended for both the
> > 3640 or
> > 3620, but this is not a software-enforced restriction. More then two
> > high-speed
> > interfaces (including ATM, FE or HSSI) are not recommended in a 3640. An
> > understanding of the 3600 series performance considerations is
> > recommended when
> > an ATM OC-3 network module is configured with two or more high-speed
> > network
> > modules. See PB545 for more details
> >
> > Q.What are the applications for the three different versions of ATM?
> >
> > A. The Singlemode Intermediate Reach ATM network modules provide
> > high-speed
> > trunking for users with access to Public or private fiber optic WAN.
> > The
> > Singlemode Long Reach is best suited for "Dark Fiber" applications where
> > a
> > direct fiber optic link exists between two stations without any
> > intervening
> > hardware other then the fiber itself. Multimode is ideal for connecting
> > to an
> > ATM Switch or hub with OC-3c/STM-1 fiber in a co-located or limited
> > distance
> > application such as in a campus environment.
> >
> > Q. What are the maximum distances supported by the 3 physical
> > interfaces?
> >
> > A. Multimode version supports up to 2km, Single-Mode Intermediate
> > supports up
> > to 15km, and Long reach version supports up to 45km.
> >
> > Q. Is ATM Circuit Emulation Services (CES) supported with these new
> > network
> > modules?
> >
> > A. No, at FCS, structured and unstructured CES using AAL1 are not
> > supported. In
> > Q4CY99, a Voice Processing Deck (VPD) expansion card slot, and a
> > WAN/Voice
> > Interface Card for PBX connectivity will support up to 2 local T1/E1
> > trunk
> > connections to a PBX. The VPD will be supported on all three versions of
> > OC-3
> > network modules. This will not be a field upgradable option.
> >
> > Q. Is Voice Over IP (VoIP) over ATM supported over OC-3 ATM?
> >
> > A. Yes, VoIP over ATM can be supported over WAN using VBR-rt class of
> > service
> > SVC's using the currently available Voice/Fax network modules and
> > associated
> > Voice Interface cards. ATM provides an ideal WAN transport method for
> > prioritizing voice packets over data packets to deliver low-latency,
> > jitter-free voice support.
> >
> > Q. What is the performance of the ATM OC-3 network modules on the 3600?
> >
> > A. The OC-3 network modules are not capable of running at wire-rate in
> > either
> > the 3640 or 3620. The ATM OC-3 network module's Fast Ethernet to ATM
> > OC-3
> > performance on a 3640 with large packets is 80Mbps. The 3620 is capable
> > of up
> > to 68Mbps. Performance on the 3640 with 64 byte packets is 40Kpps, and
> > on the
> > 3620 it is 22Kpps with 64 byte packets.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stanley Seow [mailto:stanley@silicon.net.my]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 11:55 PM
> > To: Khalid.Khan@gecits-eu.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: Preparation
> >
> > Any idea what is the objective of the ATM included for June labs ?
> > Are those the 5500 ATM module / LS1010 - ( LECS, BUS, LEC, VLAN, ELAN )
> > ?
> >
> > I m kinda worried about the ATM part actually.
> >
> > Stanley
> >
> > > I intended to take my lab week starting 14/6/99 in Brussels.
> > > I know this
> > > may seem a very open ended question but any tips on how to
> > > prepare apart
> > > from
> > > make sure you know everything about everything.
> > > I have been trying to get as much hands on and doing a lot of mock
> > > scenarios but
> > > get very overwhelmed with the vast subject matter since they are now
> > > introducing ATM.
> > > Over the next few weeks I have mapped out plan of what to
> > > study and when
> > > but sticking to
> > > it difficut.
> > >
> > > Any comments?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Khalid Khan
> > > GE Capital IT Solutions
> > >
> > >
>
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