RE: VIRL is here - finally

The real issue is all the features that are required in the CCIE blueprint
that are not available in the IOSv.

Today's CCIE students are more concerned about emulating the exam topology
than actually learning the material and the workbook providers are feeding
into that for the profit.

Will someone ever write a workbook that is geared toward teaching you to be
a CCIE again rather than teaching you the lab?

This could be done with less than 20 routers and 6 switches. If you really
know the technology, the topology is irrelevant.

Just a thought.......

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Ivan
Hrvatska
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 12:29 PM
To: John Matijevic
Cc: Professorewan; Sidney D'Souza; GmailSS; Cisco certification; Christian
Schroeder
Subject: Re: VIRL is here - finally

How difficult would be to adjust INE v5 labs which use 20 virtual routers to
VIRL which is limited to only 15 routers?

On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:40 PM, John Matijevic <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>
wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> From what I was told functionality wise they are the same the student
> version is for students enrolled in schools I did ask if the VIRL to
> be used for Ccie studies would qualify for student version but this is
> not the case, from my undrerstanding.
>
> Warm regards,
> John Matijevic
> CCIE #13254
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 2, 2014, at 11:22 PM, Professorewan <professorewan_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > What's the difference between the personal and the Faculty/student
> version. The description seems to suggest they are the same. They seem
> to have a limit of 15 devices, but on the demo video the are showing
> 40 devices. Are they using a different version?
> >
> > Parcus Ewan
> > http://crownedapps.net
> >
> >> On Dec 2, 2014, at 6:56 PM, John Matijevic
> >> <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Per Cisco,
> >> "You'll be able to use the VM Maestro UI, you can run the automated
> >> configuration builder (AutoNetKit) but you won't be able to launch
> >> a
> network
> >> simulation. Also, as you might imagine, you won't be able to get
> software
> >> updates."
> >> I take this to mean that you will have to purchase license each
> >> year in
> order
> >> for the product to function correctly.
> >>
> >> Warm regards,
> >> John Matijevic
> >> CCIE #13254
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Dec 2, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Sidney D'Souza <mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> VIRL's subscription is valid for a year. Is that just for support
> services
> >> or continued use?
> >>>
> >>>> On 2 Dec 2014 14:34, "Martin Schumacher" <
> martin1.schumacher_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> i think it will be a useful tool in the future....i looked at the
> >>>> IOSv feature list some weeks but and not everything is supported in
IOSv.
> (of
> >>>> course we can also run CRS but i do not need VIRL to run CSR. ;-)
> >>>> )
> >>>>
> >>>> Also Switching is supposed to work in a later update from what i
> heard.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2014-12-02 15:18 GMT+01:00 John Matijevic <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Ivan ,
> >>>>> I had conversation with Cisco the ideal hardware to run VIRL
> >>>>> would
> be a
> >>>>> MacBook Pro maxed out with 16 gig ram intel I7 3.0 processor and
> >>>>> 1
> >> terabyte
> >>>>> of storage the cost as of yesterday approximately $2700. I do
> >>>>> intend
> to
> >>>>> save money and purchase the hardware and VIRL for CCIE
> >>>>> Datacenter lab studies and for work. I believe that this tool
> >>>>> would be beneficial
> for
> >> the
> >>>>> route and switch version 5 exam as well,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Warm regards,
> >>>>> John Matijevic
> >>>>> CCIE #13254
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Dec 2, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Ivan Hrvatska <ivanzghr_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> what do you think about studying for CCIE R&S v5 on VIRL? I see
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>> there
> >>>>>> is a limitation of 15 nodes. Would VIRL be enough or is it
> >>>>>> better to
> >> go
> >>>>>> with CSR 1000v and your own server + 4 hardware switches?
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:02 PM, GmailSS
> >>>>>>> <yasser.alyusuf_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I could not access it !!!
> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Christian Schroeder <
> >>>>>>>> christian.pauci.schroeder_at_shredda.de> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the CML-equivlant for personal use has been announced and is
> >> available
> >>>>>>> here:
> >>>>>>>> http://virl.cisco.com/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The normal version is 200 bucks, the student/teacher version
> >>>>>>>> is
> >> 80USD.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>> Christian
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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