Re: Question regarding ASA inside host limit

From: Tony Singh <mothafungla_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 16:39:27 +0000

Sorry yes that's what I thought you meant

Nice hack :)

--
BR
Tony
> On 19 Jan 2014, at 16:36, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> I was referring to performing NAT overload at layer 3 prior to reaching
inside interface of ASA. Make all devices look like they originate from 1 to
the ASA. It works and was tactic I have used in the past to overcome this
restriction without having to go back for additional license. Latency is
nominal but of course would depend on layer 3 forwarding device in front of
ASA.
>
> I see it as engineering around a legal loophole.
>
> Regards,
>
> Marc Edwards
> CCIE #38259
>
>
>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Tony Singh <mothafungla_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ARP works at layer 2 therefore it is not possible to NAT inside host
traffic for ARP yes  you can for L3 traffic but it defeats the object and the
cache would still get populated.
>>
>> If you meant NAT before the ASA with another device then yes agree this
should work as long as latency or voice applications are not the sources.
>>
>> My 2cents
>>
>> --
>> BR
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> > On 18 Jan 2014, at 21:51, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Now that's thinking like a CCIE.
>> > +1
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Jay McMickle- 2x CCIE #35355 (R/S,Sec)
>> > Sent from my iPhone 5
>> >
>> >> On Jan 18, 2014, at 10:42 AM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Could always NAT on inside before ASA. What it doesn't know won't hurt
it
>> > ;)
>> >>
>> >>> On Saturday, January 18, 2014, Anthony <anthonybonilla.ccie_at_gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>> Great, thanks again guys!
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Jan 18, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> One of the best ways to ease this pain is to not use the ASA as the
>> > default gateway since it's the number of ARP entries that matter to the
ASA
>> > against the licenses. Another way to is to reduce the ARP entries (reduce
arp
>> > aging) and xlate timers.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The license upgrade is only about $125 USD, but if it's only one
printer
>> > that's causing the license issue, these tweaks might be helpful as it
doesn't
>> > really need to be known by the ASA.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards,
>> >>>> Jay McMickle- 2x CCIE #35355 (R/S,Sec)
>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone 5
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Jan 18, 2014, at 7:08 AM, Gabriel Kujawski <gabriel_at_brama.waw.pl>
>> > wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Yeah, no impact as long as you are within ten devices limit.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sent from your iPhone
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 18 sty 2014, at 13:56, Anthony <anthonybonilla.ccie_at_gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Cool that's what I was hoping.  Also, there shouldn't be any impact
to
>> > services for first 10 hosts, right?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2014, at 12:56 AM, Gabriel Kujawski
<gabriel_at_brama.waw.pl>
>> > wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>> The 11th host will be not be allowed to communicate with the
outside
>> > world.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sent from your iPhone
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 18 sty 2014, at 00:13, Anthony Bonilla
>> > <anthonybonilla.ccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Can someone please let me know implication of exceeding the base
>> > limit on
>> >>>>>>>> ASA for inside hosts (currently at 10)?  I think I might be
reaching
>> > that
>> >>>>>>>> limit and already looking into getting license for more hosts but
>> > was
>> >>>>>>>> curious in the meantime would ASA continue allowing traffic if I
>> > tried to
>> >>>>>>>> use 11th machine or would it have any adverse affect on the prod
>> > traffic?
>> >>>>>>>> Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> TIA
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Tony
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
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