Re: VIRL

Lets not forget how beneficial GNS3/Dynamips has been for Cisco. You have a
very large number of engineers who learned networking from the ground up in
IOS, because they had an easily accessible emulator. Later down the road,
those engineers will definitely have some bias in vendor selection.

I thought Cisco "got this" when they first started talking about VIRL.
$2,000 USD is expensive, but it depends on how you look at it. One could
easily spend $2,000 on a CCIE R&S rack. A CCIE SP rack is completely out of
the question in terms of cost. I would be HAPPY to spend $2,000 on a piece
of software that allowed me to emulate the devices necessary for the SP.

-YuriB

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:

> Very simple - they didn't Use/pay at own risk :-)
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Tony Singh <mothafungla_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Question how did GNS3 project get/have a license to run IOS/Junos BSD ?
> >
> > --
> > BR
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On 15 Jan 2014, at 18:28, Tauseef Khan <tasneemjan_at_googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Marko but certainly $2000 doesn't sound reasonable price , well
> > to
> > > me at least.
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > >
> > > Tauseef
> > > mobile: +44 7837209187
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 15 January 2014 17:48, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Not under GNU, but they hinted at a reasonable price. I've seen the
> > >> mentioned pricing in some presentations, but I'd wait to see what they
> > come
> > >> up with.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Tauseef Khan <
> > tasneemjan_at_googlemail.com>wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> was it not going to be released under gnu
> > >>>
> > >>> Kind regards
> > >>>
> > >>> Tauseef
> > >>> mobile: +44 7837209187
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 15 January 2014 14:37, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Wow, given what they said I thought it would be slightly more
> > reasonably
> > >>>> priced than this.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Jay McMickle <
> jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> It's not free and won't be released for another 3 months or so. My
> > >>>>> company is
> > >>>>> a beta tester, and as Marc mentioned, the Beta is closed.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It runs for about $2,000 for the VMWorkstation edition to
> > $5,000-10,000
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>> VMWare single user and upwards from there.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>> Jay McMickle- 2x CCIE #35355 (R/S,Sec)
> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> what i need to know is my cco account is usual one , and does
> not
> > >>>>> have
> > >>>>> any support contract . can i still downlaod it ?
> > >>>>>> in other words is it free ?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:37 PM, <marco207p_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> yes, you can use the CSRv today for learning the IOS-XE. You can
> > >>> set
> > >>>>> this
> > >>>>> up in Virtual-box or VmWare "Server, Player". I know Brian Dennis
> > >>> did a
> > >>>>> nice
> > >>>>> writeup on how to do this on the INE website, and there are a few
> > >>> others
> > >>>>> that
> > >>>>> have described this on their websites as well. All you need to do
> > is a
> > >>>>> quick
> > >>>>> google search.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Joe Sanchez
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> what is your take on CSRv , can we use this one for RS v5 ?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Narbik Kocharians
> > >>>>> <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Jay,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Have you tried to mix Classic IOS, XE, Nx-OS and XR all in a
> > >>>>> topology
> > >>>>> all
> > >>>>>>>>> at the same time? I guess this can be a good test.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Jay McMickle <
> > >>>>> jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I've been beta testing, and it works great for IOS routers and
> > >>> XE
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>> XR
> > >>>>>>>>>> switches. I was hoping to use it for CCIE SP, but that may not
> > >>> be
> > >>>>>>>>> feasible
> > >>>>>>>>>> just yet. Other than the ME3400 and NNI needs, it really does
> > >>> work
> > >>>>> great
> > >>>>>>>>>> and even allow you to export your configs or import them.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> There is a cloud based option to save money, but the VM option
> > >>> is
> > >>>>> what
> > >>>>>>>>>> we're using and impressed.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>> Jay McMickle- 2x CCIE #35355 (R/S,Sec)
> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 13, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Yuri Bank <yuribank_at_gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I've been wondering this myself. There was a bunch of hype,
> > >>> and it
> > >>>>>>>>>> sounded
> > >>>>>>>>>>> GREAT. But as things develop, it seems that it will be more
> of
> > >>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>> cloud-based solution similar to Junosphere, which kind of
> > >>> blows.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> -YuriB
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Tauseef Khan <
> > >>>>>>>>> tasneemjan_at_googlemail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any news on VIRL yet. I thought Cisco were going to
> > >>>>> release
> > >>>>>>>>>> end of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> last year??
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Tauseef
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
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