Re: OT - After SDN, does CCIE still make senese ?

My .02, SDN is still embraced by early adopters only, once it becomes
commodity, the exams will reflect it. It is a good idea to follow SDN
and read up on whatever available. But at the moment it does not
diminish a CCIE value. Not in Cisco shops anyway with Cisco still seeing
customized silicons as a core business. :-)

Cheers
A.

On 7/7/2013 4:51 PM, sameer khan wrote:
> Monsef thanks for replying, i really understand that Cisco program manager
> must have thought of something but let me take a flashback and try to explain
> where i am coming from, not too far back Microsoft dumped dos, with windows
> 95. With windows 95 the GUI eliminated the need of commands that were used
> for operation as simple as copying a file. The companies are there for one
> sole purpose that is to make money, so they will dump anything in return of
> more profits.
> To best of my understanding humans tend to follow the ease over hardship, and
> follow hardship in sight of return. As for networks, CCIEs are there to handle
> control plane and with SDN that control plane is being shifted ( that is
> unclear to me where at the moment) to something alike GUI or scripts or maybe
> both.
> I as a network engineer must understand the fundamental but will it makes
> sense to understand them to this scary amount of depth that CCIE goes into and
> also any one who i think is preparing for the lab exam will have solid
> foundation of the protocol but when proving it in the lab does that make sense
> and worth going for with SDN in perspective. CCIE is a number that is a proof
> of your understanding but will that proof be worthy and required in the first
> place ?
> i hope i made sense of my confusion :)
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 08:16:15 +0200
>> Subject: Re: OT - After SDN, does CCIE still make senese ?
>> From: m.abdelmonsef_at_gmail.com
>> To: khanzadap_at_hotmail.com
>> CC: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>
>> I wounder The GUI is created by engineers and you are engineer how can you
>> create the click to do the action and how can you click on this and
>> understand the action happens behind the seen are you a help desk or
>> network engineer ?! again don't think that Cisco program managers are
>> stupid to make the CCIE on of the Cisco programs that became a reference
>> for understanding the technology and one of the Business certificates that
>> make a Cisco market big will be dead due to another product specially the
>> product is summarizing the command line again the GUI wont be as easy like
>> the the command line, that's my own opinion and what I see inside this
>> business while working in this field.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Monsef
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 7:45 AM, sameer khan <khanzadap_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello guys,
>>>
>>> I am in pursuit of my CCIE R&S but now and then i am hearing about sdn or
>>> openflow that crushes my motivation and stops me for moving forward, as
>>> what i
>>> seem to perceive is that some point in future, i am not saying tomorrow
> or
>>> any
>>> time soon, the commands and protocols that i am trying so hard to learn,
>>> understand and memorize will be transformed into mouse clicks and with
>>> fancy
>>> GUI that can make all the task easier but at the same time will make CCIE
> a
>>> thing of the past.
>>> I don't know if my assumption are any right but i am really really
> confused
>>> should i continue with CCIE R&S or take up programming and VMware stuff (
>>> though i already consider myself a decent programmer) ?
>>> I would be grateful if any one can be please help me out clear the this
>>> confusion.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
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