RE: CCIE Data Center

Simply not true. How do I know? I was the product Manager for the CCDE and CCAr at the time. The first two CCAr's did not help create the exam and in fact took the board exam. I was also on the board that graded them.

I hope that straightens that out.

Cheers,

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of JV
Sent: February-11-13 5:28 PM
To: Marko Milivojevic
Cc: Mohamed A. Monsef Abbas; Mohammed Naviwala; Travis Niedens; Mark Stephanus Chandra; GS CCIE
Subject: Re: CCIE Data Center

Marko Dear,

Let me refresh your memory

The first 2 CCA passed do u know who we're they ?

Cisco employees and prepared the CCA course.

Once they got that certification they ditched cisco one sitting in HP and 2nd is out of cisco as well

And just to change the taste cisco is that bitch which can't make any this special than just buy it and put cisco tag on it

MERAKI is the latest example

Some time feel like burn all 4 CCIEs
Plaque including 10 years old member too in front of San France Cisco with media

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On 12/02/2013, at 4:39 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:

> Correct and from what I heard, he was involved with the exam creation
> itself, hence my comment about being grandfathered in. That said, I
> actually think he took the test, but he was involved with the creative
> process.
>
> The second CCIE DC whom I know personally and was a great inspiration
> for my own becoming a CCIE (this is his 5th) passed last week on his
> 2nd attempt (and interestingly, he was the very first person to take
> the tast on day 1).
>
> In his case, I can guarantee it wasn't just because he had a free
> attempt. That guy knows his stiff.
>
> Until he comes out on his own, I won't disclose his name. He's from a
> Scandinavian country :-).
>
> --
> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor /
> Managing Partner - IPexpert
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Mohamed A. Monsef Abbas
> <m.abdelmonsef_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Robert Burns from Canada Cisco Employee
>>
>> ca.linkedin.com/pub/robert-burns/10/755/bb
>>
>> ;)
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:40 AM, JV <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It's all bullshit. What cisco employee do is just take part
>>> preparing course and exam and the sit in exam which they prepared it
>>> with free attempted ( as cisco employee got 3 free any exam
>>> attempts)
>>>
>>> And the tell all the world they are genius.... Shit as
>>>
>>> I asked one scenario with such kind of grandfather and he f***ing
>>> worse the Ccnp level
>>>
>>> Just making money from every side and claiming as leader
>>>
>>>
>>> Save my this email for future reference
>>>
>>> When all cisco claim as leader will f***up
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 11/02/2013, at 4:33 PM, Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> one of them is Robert Burns. second I dont know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Travis Niedens
>>>> <niedentj_at_hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Who was grandfathered in ? Silvano gai ?? Who else could be
>>>>> considered the father of nxos and MDS ?
>>>>>
>>>>> T
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 10, 2013, at 8:54 AM, "Marko Milivojevic"
>>>>> <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have heard from two people who have passed. One of them was
>>>>>> sort of grandfathered in and the 2nd one passed couple of days
>>>>>> ago. Both are Cisco employees.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor /
>>>>>> Managing Partner - IPexpert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Mark Stephanus Chandra
>>>>>> <mark.chandra_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just wondering has anyone attempted CCIE data Center before ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to know how you prepare for this ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any Bootcamp to CCIE DC ? Any lab rentals ? I used to rental INE
>>>>>>> Racks
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> CCIE RS Preparation :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Guys
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
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