Re: LLQ- help (with elephants)

From: Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:01:07 -0800

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Therefore, when I placed 4 calls that tootled approx 112K of the Pipe. All
> worked well. The 5th call went through fine cause it was not enough to
> congest the link. The 6th call had to have had congested the link which
> kicked in the BURST parameter set in the Priority Queue and traffic dropped
> traffic out of the VOICE CLASS.
>
[...]
> I also have in my notes that the POLICE action worked very similar to a Single Rate 2 Color Policer. '
>
> The conclusion was that the Priority Class Burst Parameter will drop traffic only when the link is congested, even if it's by a little depending on the traffic.

Dear Lord, I don't even know where to begin with this...

#1 You are aware that 5th call may have gone through because the
timing on it was such that packets were arriving in such a way to
never trigger a congestion, even though you exceeded the bandwidth by
calculation, but not in reality? See example from Carlos about
elephants (brilliant!)

#6 6th call of course overwhelmed the link, as the statistical timing
offset was astronomical at that point for different flows to
interleave without triggering the congestion. When this happens, *of
course* policer kicks in and all traffic, regardless of the flow gets
policed at the specified rate.

#3 "Kicked out of VOICE CLASS" - how *on Earth* does traffic gets
kicked out of the class once it's classified there?

#4 Higher burst parameter causes more draps? What's this about? If
anything, higher burst means longer measurement interval (in what you
claim it does), or higher calculated rate that can exceed without
causing drops. Are you now claiming that BURST parameter in the
priority command does something entirely different? If yes, pray
explain, as I have lost you completely at this point.

Last but not the least...

>
> This is how the BURST parameter works.

HOW? I never saw an explanation, just a mass confusion as some
authority-referencing (Wendell), which is not a valid argument.

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